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post #1 of 54 Old 08-26-2017, 06:16 PM Thread Starter
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Question To ABS or not to ABS? Preparing to buy lightly-used Wee

So. I've almost got the money saved. (My treasurer/wife is big on "no debt for nuttin' that isn't a house.") Been watching here, Craigslist, and ADVRider to see what's available used and what's a good deal vs. not a good deal. Definitely want a 650, ideally already with luggage (my Excel spreadsheet says a used bike with hard top and side bags is on average $456 more than a bike without bags, which is WAY cheaper than buying new).

My big question now is, ABS? Or Not ABS?

The average Not ABS used bike with bags I'm looking at is, say, a 2007 with 35k miles for about $2500-3000.

The average ABS used bike with bags I'm looking at is, say, a 2011 with 15k miles for about $4500-5000.

(And yes, I know a lot of that difference is just "newer vs. older". I estimate about $1300 of the difference is just that.)

Now, I started riding late; learned at age 45 9 years ago, and my last bike died 3+ years ago, so I've not been riding over that time. I'm not the best rider out there, and I know it. I'm also an out-of-shape lardass, for whatever difference that makes. (6'1", should be 200 lb, actually 260 lb.)

So is ABS likely to be a lifesaver for me? A big enough difference to get a newer bike even at a higher price? Or should I save my simoleons and just get a good less-expensive non-ABS bike?

(I'm in California and would ride year-round, some commuting and some weekend touring, if that helps.)
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Wait around and find a good deal on exactly what you want. I managed to snatch an 08 ABS with (translating from units that make sense for the benefit of americans) roughly 30k miles for $2800, and it has pelican case panniers, a top box, a skid plate, crash bars and heated grips.
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Abs is nice but not a deal breaker. Others will argue that since you can buy ABS bikes, why not. Having had ABS bikes you get so used to not skidding you don't give it a thought.
I got my 04 Wee, without ABS, and laid a long rear tire mark while the bike squirmed around under me when I stomped on the brakes at speed.
I was amused and then could recall older bike before the ABS god came to be. It's better with. But I'm not upgrading just to get it.
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I wouldn't buy a bike without it. Lookup youtube wet motorcycle braking with/without abs.

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Wait around and find a good deal on exactly what you want. I managed to snatch an 08 ABS with (translating from units that make sense for the benefit of americans) roughly 30k miles for $2800, and it has pelican case panniers, a top box, a skid plate, crash bars and heated grips.
Canadian here, so you didn't have to translate for me. I just happen to be working and living in Los Angeles now. Learned to ride when I first came to the US for work in 2008. And yes, an 08 ABS at that price would be PERFECT! Congrats on the lucky buy!

(I'm actually including BC and AB in my search for bikes on Craigslist ... but I need to find out how expensive/time-consuming/difficult it would be to import a bike to the US.)
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Canadian here, so you didn't have to translate for me. I just happen to be working and living in Los Angeles now. Learned to ride when I first came to the US for work in 2008. And yes, an 08 ABS at that price would be PERFECT! Congrats on the lucky buy!

(I'm actually including BC and AB in my search for bikes on Craigslist ... but I need to find out how expensive/time-consuming/difficult it would be to import a bike to the US.)
Speaking to your last comment, first. You do not want to try and bring a Canadian bike into California. Or any bike or car from out of state. It can be done but it would take a really strong bargain and you have to have the right attitude to make any sense. Besides there are a ton of just-right-bikes here.

AS for getting a newer ABS bike - my opinion is an evangelistic yes. The V-Stroms are reliable and long lived. Still, newer is newer. The ABS when put to its intended use is a major upgrade. By intended use I mean that ABS is not just about stopping without a skid. It is about being able continue to steer around a corner or around an obstacle with the brakes jammed on.
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Can you put a price on SAFETY?

Kidding, but seriously if the price is slightly higher for something that can potentially save you from personal injury or worse, bike injury, it's almost as good as insurance imo. The argument of "you learn to ride worse with ABS" is almost meaningless to me because if you own a bike with ABS, that's what you ride. And in the future, every bike will have ABS.
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I've grown to really appreciate ABS. If given the opportunity, I would wait for ABS.
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It saved my ass once and that was enough for me to never go for bike without ABS again.
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I've never owned a bike with ABS, but have had enough unexpected front end lockups that my next touring bike will have to have it.
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