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post #1 of 8 Old 04-25-2017, 09:14 PM Thread Starter
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Question Can you guys talk me into or out of a specific bike?

Hi all, new user here. There is a guy in my area selling a 04 dl1000 with 55k miles. It is pretty well outfitted for road touring (high quality side cases, 12v adapter up front, heated grips, Suzuki gel seat). No body damage or evidence of drops. According to him, the previous owner did valves at 30k, but he has not done them since. Otherwise it looks like it's really been taking care of and seems to have a lot of additions.

I test rode the bike, it was really comfortable to sit on right away, but the clutch chudder was bad, way worse than my SV1000. I definitely felt/heard it in neutral with the clutch lever out and during accel in lower gears. That put me off a bit, plus the fact that it wasn't insured/registered so I couldn't take it out on the highway and really get it up to speed. It felt like a risk, knowing I'm looking for a bike I can spend hours on... I wanted to take it on a long test ride. It also needed a new rear tire. He wouldn't take less than $2600 for it.

Called a coworker who has a Wee for advice and he told me that 55k engine is "on it's last leg". I'd probably be looking at an engine rebuild at $1500 sooner than later. I've read claims that a Vee engine will last a while, so his comment about a 55k seemed odd. I just don't know who to trust. I do know I want a 1000 over a 650 (heavy set and more leg room according to Cycle Ergo). If y'all say $2600 is too much for a 55k miles with real bad chudder, I can pass on this one and stop second guessing myself and my coworker. I'm not in much of a position to spend $4500 on a newer version with lower miles, especially because the local ones are a lot more stock. Thanks for the advice.
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post #2 of 8 Old 04-25-2017, 09:21 PM
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$2600? I say go for it and just plan on sending your clutch basket in and having Werks mod it for $310:
https://www.werksparts.com/basket-purchase.html

55k is nothing on any strom............but the clutch might be a factor if the previous owner was hard on it.
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Does he have any maintenance records? Does he claim to have done regular maintenance? Unless he has trashed it, I'd be surprised if it needed an engine anytime soon.

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Called a coworker who has a Wee for advice and he told me that 55k engine is "on it's last leg". I'd probably be looking at an engine rebuild at $1500 sooner than later.
55k is still a pretty young engine even for a 650. Mine has 86k on it and it's still doing fine. There's at least one DL1K out there with over 400,000 miles on it. You can also find complete running engines for a lot less than $1,500.
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That's a good point. Garage was very organized, both his bikes and jeep were very clean. He was an older gentlemen, and very honest and forthcoming. I don't believe he got the maintenance records from the previous owner and didn't seem to have any of his own. He stated about 30k of the miles were from the previous owner commuting to NY and back (which makes sense because I work for the same company and we have a headquarters there). Honestly, I had no red flags go off. I was just really surprised by the level of chudder and what my coworker told me.

I also know that if I buy this bike, with all the extras, I will really appreciate them, but I know I'm too cheap to sink money into them if I bought a stock bike. That's why I'm hesitant to buy a newer, lower mileage Vee from a shop in town for $4500.

I am going to drop the price of my V Star (anyone wanna buy 02 V Star 1100?) and if I can sell it relatively quickly I'll probably revisit this bike.
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I've just recently bought an 04 DL1000 with 65k miles, asking price was 2500 and I managed to get it out the door for 2300.

The bike is in stock configuration. It has the dreaded chudder and I'll be addressing it sooner rather than later. It also was doing the jerky, surging thing at low speed/rpm, a dobeck ejk fixed that. I've added some other stuff and am quite happy with the comfort and function of the bike. Once the chudder is ironed out it will probably be my go to bike.

I'm also not much of a mechanic. My advice is to do it, once you get it smoothed out you will be very happy.
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50+ thousand miles on a DL 1000 is nothing. It does effect the price, and buying any bike in the $2500 range means you cannot get hurt too bad!

Clutch chudder has a permanent fix and fixing that transforms the bike. You will need to buy a new OEM clutch basket ( $275 or so ) or have yours modified, $310 which includes return shipping. A modified clutch basket is a permanent fix, a new OEM will go downhill with miles. A new OEM clutch cover gasket, $17.50. Oil and coolant. That should do it. Your clutch plates will be perfectly good to reinstall.

These older DL 1000's may be the best bargain in the market right now. Do a JB Weld fix on the rotor, install a voltmeter, fix the clutch basket, give it a good tune up, and it may be one of the most reliable, handle anything bikes on the road.

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WERKS modified clutch baskets for DL and SV 1000's.
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Thanks Shelby. I tried to talk him down a bit more to make up for the cost of having the clutch basket modified, but he wouldn't budge. Hearing everyone's positive comments about the reliability of the engine is reassuring. Only remaining question about the engine is... maybe he was referencing a preventative rebuild of certain engine components? Is this a thing you have to do at some point before 100k miles in addition to regular oil changes and valve clearance checks (oil pump, bearings, valves, springs, etc.)?

Shelby, could you elaborate on the jb weld rotor comment? Could you or anyone else point me to a YouTube video or some detailed guide to this? I'm not the most mechanically sound, but with a good guide I can usually figure it out.
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