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post #1 of 12 Old 02-17-2009, 05:20 PM Thread Starter
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Pretty specific question re: pillion room

Hi all,

So I have an '06 SV650S that my wife and I got for touring, only to find out it's pretty uncomfy (especially on the pillion) for long hauls. I'm toying with the idea of trading it for a Wee, and I've found a fairly local Wee that looks like a good deal.

Before I pursue this further though, I want to make sure I am not trading one set of problems for another. So I have this question about pillion space:

My wife is def petit, 5'1" and only 130 lbs, but on the SVS she was cramped for space. She was competing with Nelson Rigg touring bags but had a good back cushion in the form of a Givi E52 topcase with backrest.

From pics of the Wee, it looks like mounting the Givi case would push right up against the pillion's back -- maybe even intrude a little and force her to lean forward? Has anyone found that to be the case? Also, I'm wondering if, with the Nelson Rigg bags, she'd still be able to reach the passenger pegs. She was having trouble with that on the SVS. Has anyone ever had a pillion with these bags, or similarly sized (or bigger) Givi cases?

These are the Nelson Rigg bags: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...addlebags.aspx

Also, I have some reservations about trading in the relatively pure sex of the SVS for the homeliness of the Wee. Can someone get on that? Thanks.
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amotostuff (and others, I think) have Givi mounts that give you an extra couple of inches. Many concerned with passenger room dispense with the backrest.

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my 12 year old son is about the same height but has a little more girth. i asked and he just told me my saddle bags are a little annoying because they touch him (just like his older brother used to). the trunk location is mutch better and actually comfortable with the amotostuff bracket. here's a link to my set up. http://s388.photobucket.com/albums/o...view=slideshow

note that i had to modify the rack to fit my OEM top case (the rack is made for GIVI monokey case) and my saddlebags drape over the seat. i could probably move them back and a little lower to get under the turn signals but he's my son, not my wife, and I like them where they are.
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My Wee has the full factory luggage setup with topcase and side cases. My wife is 5'3" and small. She fits very well. I asked her specifically if she felt cramped and if the case provided a good backrest. She said she didn't feel cramped and was comfy with the case. In fact she enjoys the added security of having something to lean against. She's very happy with the comfort level of the bike.

Another thing that's nice about the Wee is that the seat is relatively flat so she won't constantly be pushed into you, in turn pushing you forward, in turn pushing your junk into the gas tank. Many of us have been there and done that unfortunately.

Is the Wee homely . . . . maybe, I don't know. It grows on you especially when you realize just how well it does everything. After riding my Wee for a few months I sat on an SV650 and it felt like a toy. I was happy to get back to my roomy Wee!

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Hi all,

So I have an '06 SV650S that my wife and I got for touring, only to find out it's pretty uncomfy (especially on the pillion) for long hauls. I'm toying with the idea of trading it for a Wee, and I've found a fairly local Wee that looks like a good deal.

Before I pursue this further though, I want to make sure I am not trading one set of problems for another. So I have this question about pillion space:

My wife is def petit, 5'1" and only 130 lbs, but on the SVS she was cramped for space. She was competing with Nelson Rigg touring bags but had a good back cushion in the form of a Givi E52 topcase with backrest.

From pics of the Wee, it looks like mounting the Givi case would push right up against the pillion's back -- maybe even intrude a little and force her to lean forward? Has anyone found that to be the case? Also, I'm wondering if, with the Nelson Rigg bags, she'd still be able to reach the passenger pegs. She was having trouble with that on the SVS. Has anyone ever had a pillion with these bags, or similarly sized (or bigger) Givi cases?

These are the Nelson Rigg bags: http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...addlebags.aspx

Also, I have some reservations about trading in the relatively pure sex of the SVS for the homeliness of the Wee. Can someone get on that? Thanks.
I have a 52 and I moved it back. Take the rubber plate off and move the mounting bolts back.
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Our wee has the V46 monokey. I'm larger than your wife (5'7") and I find my back against the case, which I find uncomfortable. I'd want the cushion if I was going to spend any real time as a passenger - but then I think it would push me a little forward. Mike's idea sounds good. I like the grab handles at the side as a passenger, let me hold on while sitting up to get better view.
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Smile Don't worry about it

No matter what, compared to the SV and the being your wife is petite the Strom will have plenty of room when the top case is installed. We also have the V46 Monokey and my wife is 5'8 150 lbs, not a petite woman by any means and she has plenty of room. The only thing that didn't work for her was having the back rest installed on the case which did push her too far forward. We removed that, plus I moved the case adapter plate as far back on the rear rack as I could and it fixed the problem. Her jacket has a back pad in it anyway so there's no issue with the case being uncomfortable to lean back against.

We also have the largest aftermarket cases possible (45L) and it does not cause any issues with leg room.

The only thing I would do is opt for the Vee instead of the Wee. :mrgreen:
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I've got the E52 mounted on the amotostuff bracket. My fiancee actually told me I could move it in closer to the original mounting position, but I don't have the backrest on it. She's taller, about 5'6" but skinny at 115. Fits fine and loves the seat (I have the gel seat, ditch the stock 650 seat ASAP!).

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SV vs DL650

I have factory hard cases. My wife and I are large people. I had to build a bracket and move the top box back 6 inches. We ride all day up thru the Sierra Nevada mountains and down the coast of No. Cali. 10 to 12 hours a day no problem. You will find a lot more low end to the DL. I have also changed the front sprocket to a 14. This allowes me slower cornering and a tad bit faster pick up.

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when I put my hard luggage on the back, I put the two erector set pieces of metal parallel to the bike (underneath) instead of perpendicular, which allows me to have the topcase farther back - plenty of room for my wife, and with the Nelson Rigg soft side luggage. It has been on there for 2500 miles and hasn't budged. No drilling btw... in case I ever take it off it'll be "natural." Just had to cut off the extra lengths of the bolts.

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