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post #1 of 85 Old 10-04-2016, 10:31 PM Thread Starter
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V-Strom vs. Versys and to some lesser degree vs. FJ-09

Hey All. Great Forum!
Been street bike less for almost 10 years. Had a CRF the last few years to ride trails with my kids but they are older now and not riding. Iíve had many bikes over the years starting with an old 250 triple at 16 and last street bike was a wing.

Looking to get back into it with a commuter thatís capable of the odd weekend tour and maybe a week a year solid on the bike vacation likely loaded down with camping gear. 99% of the time single rider as the wife has no interest and likely all pavement riding unless I found a group that dragged me kicking and screaming in the dirt. Regardless of what I by Luggage is a MUST and an important factor in my considerations. Fir instance the DL1000 SE stock bags seems way undersized.

Iím 50, 5í11 and fat (240ish) but still strong and loosing weight :-). Looking at the above mentioned bikes based on upright ergonomics and some weather protection in a package I find appealing. Safety in wet/cold riding is also important to extend the short season up here in Canada so a little traction control and ABS are welcomed aids.

First off I havenít narrowed down the search to either the 650 or 1000 flavors of either bike and the FJ in the middle at 850.

Given my circumstances what would you buy and why? (Yes I get I'm asking this on a V-Strom forum

I know you must get this over and over and Iím ferociously reading over older threads now so consider this an introduction and thanks for having me post!

First -> Kawasaki S1, RD400, Seca650, Seca900, KZ1000, CR250, GL1200, CRF230 <-last. Now nothing
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Given your riding history and that you want new I'd opt for FJ-09 in a heart beat. Even tho either Strom would be fine the FJ will give you a thrill and in my view is a bargain for what you get.



Yamaha FJ-09

and another review
https://rideapart.com/articles/incre...a-fj-09-review

The advantage with the Strom is the wide range of farkles and a reputation for durability ( my 2010 650 has 115,000 km on it with zilch problems ).
But I keep around the CBF1000 for the thrills I can't get from the Wee. I take either for distance but the Wee for multii-week rides as it has better luggage and much better fuel mileage.

The only question in mind for the FJ is long term durability as it's relatively new design and lots of electronics. I tend to used and simpler proven designs.
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Both good bikes with the Versys being the sportier of the two. Back in '09 I went through the same debate with myself. I opted for the Strom for practical reasons, a large back seat/luggage rack for carrying gear, at the time a larger gas tank and centerstand capable, front and rear fenders that made an attempt to keep you dry, and roomier ergos. The Strom seemed like the better long distance bike at the time, it all depends on your priorities.

I always tell people to get a test ride. I can't tell you how many bikes I've ridden that on paper I was sure would be great, but ended up hating once on the road. The FJ09 being one, a fun bike but the buzzy vibration at 4k RPM was a deal breaker for me.
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Thanks guys!
Macdoc that was my feeling as well but I have to rethink that.

I just test ďpilotedĒ the FJ. YeaÖ Havenít been on a street bike in years but did these things get a whole lot faster? Way more speed that Iíd ever need or use. Fun but a tad scary if Iím being honest with myself! :-)
So much top end speed! Very light handling but the throttle felt like a switch. Admittedly Iím way out of practice.
Ass was sore in 30 mins. Got off, got a coffee to calm down a bit. Nothing felt right but everything is new including all my gear.
Love the seating position in relation to the bars but the peg position feels a little cramped (high) and far back. Wind protection sucks but I guess they all will compared to my old wing.
I love the look of the bike but I think Iíll focus on the VStrom/Versys and see what I can ride next.

Can the 650ís do all Iím asking of them given my weight and interest in riding loaded to camp?
I read the 650 Strom will have traction control next year and since itís the end of the riding season where I am I can wait. :-)

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So I am 5'11" and running about 270 right now and the dl650 has plenty of power for me to do whatever I want. I have panniers and a top case, even when full for a trip the little 650 rips just fine. I did some test rides some time ago and tested most of what you are thinking of. I sat on the FJ but the cramped leg position was an immediate turn off. Based on the power of both 650's (versys and Vstrom) and the Vstrom 1K, I knew it was not necessary for me to test the versys 1K. Check out my test reviews, they run for a couple pages starting on page 6:

https://www.stromtrooper.com/v-curiou...eestrom-6.html

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I'm 6'1", 240# (well was, on the way down now, saw 215# yesterday!) And ride a 2012 dl650a. Took a 2600 mile ride through Nevada last summer, heavily loaded. I never felt like I needed extra power, though I've always ridden smaller bikes (400s and 450s).

So there's a data point about whether the 650s can suffice.
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Can the 650ís do all Iím asking of them given my weight and interest in riding loaded to camp?
I read the 650 Strom will have traction control next year and since itís the end of the riding season where I am I can wait
I call my Wee The Mule ....I'm always overladed travelling with the kid as his FZ only has a top case ...bit small for 3 weeks and all his diabetes supplies.

We've been to both coasts and the Mule just chugs along fine in in the Dakotas with insane traffic speeds



Seating is enjoyable, very upright, little or no buffeting with a Madstad bracket and incredible value - just curious why you want new tho.

Stripped down the Wee can canyon carve if you get the suspension sorted....it's great on the less than perfect Quebec roads - even The James Bay Road frost heaves it floats over and with K60s on its rock steady on gravel plus gets 400 + km per tank... the spare fuel in the photo above is for the kids FZ which is very lucky to get 200 km per tank....annoying when touring.
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I have owned the V-Strom and the FJ-09. I have ridden the Versys with cash in hand fully ready to buy it. That changed as soon as I rode it.

They are all very different bikes. If you plan to take cross country trips the choice narrows to the V-Strom quickly.

If you want a sport bike with a "slightly" more comfortable seating position, get the FJ-09.

Pass on the Versys. Just plain uncomfortable in a way that can not be fixed.
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I have owned the V-Strom and the FJ-09. I have ridden the Versys with cash in hand fully ready to buy it. That changed as soon as I rode it.

They are all very different bikes. If you plan to take cross country trips the choice narrows to the V-Strom quickly.

If you want a sport bike with a "slightly" more comfortable seating position, get the FJ-09.

Pass on the Versys. Just plain uncomfortable in a way that can not be fixed.


I had a '13 DL650 and I *loved* it. I would agree with everything said here about the 650. I agree with these comments about the Versys. I loved the engine but the ergos were awful - for me. I have not ridden the FJ. I moved up to a '14 Vstrom 1k. If the 650 is a perfect bike, the 1k is "perfecter" IMO. I am 5'8" and 220lbs and have the stock seat. It's very comfortable for 1 day or multi-day rides. This bike is really underrated and awesome. It can do *everything* well... even dirt. I've had mine for 22 months and have 67,000 miles on it - with NO problems (other than those caused by me!). Yes, that includes dirt too. I would say skip the 650 and go to the 1K Adventure.


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I have a Wee, a V2 and a FZ09 so similar to some of your choices.

There is no doubt the Yamaha is fun, heaps of grunt and weighs next to nothing but I don't see it as a long term bike, ride it, flog it and pass it on is the way I see that bike, my son had a small get off in the wet and the bike had to be trailered home, there is no metal in the bike whereas he could have picked up a Strom and ridden on.

I have a huge soft spot for the Wee and had many happy days loaded up with the bride and our gear, I was never disappointed by the thing but one day I need to do 900ks (560 miles) in the wet in half a day, I found I was spending a little to much time on the wrong side of the road during my stupid overtaking manoeuvres so the V2 was purchased.

I always called my Wee my honest bike and the V2 is called my lifetime bike, I could be happy enough to try and keep it for my lifetime ?

The FZ09 is the Scud, life threatening.

Ultimately the only way not to be disappointed is to make your own decision but if I could only have one bike, for the ridding I do it is the V2.
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