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post #1 of 35 Old 12-17-2008, 11:21 AM Thread Starter
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Strom 1000 for first timer?

Hello, I am 41 and looking at getting my first bike after taking the MSF course this spring. I really like the Vee's and am seriously looking at them. I went to our local dealer and sat on a Wee. There is a used 1000 for sale for $4900 and I am wondering if it is too much for a beginner. I know it is about 50 lbs heavier than the Wee. I am NOT a teenager and am looking at the bike for casual riding and touring at some point. Is this 1000 too much to start? finding used Vee's is not easy in this area from what I have been able to check on the web. Your thoughts are appreciated.
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Hello, I am 41 and looking at getting my first bike after taking the MSF course this spring. I really like the Vee's and am seriously looking at them. I went to our local dealer and sat on a Wee. There is a used 1000 for sale for $4900 and I am wondering if it is too much for a beginner. I know it is about 50 lbs heavier than the Wee. I am NOT a teenager and am looking at the bike for casual riding and touring at some point. Is this 1000 too much to start? finding used Vee's is not easy in this area from what I have been able to check on the web. Your thoughts are appreciated.
Short version - Really Poor Choice. The size/weight/COG of the thing is a major issue, power is double or more what you'd want for optimal skill training, and the Throttle response off idle is abrupt and unforgiving. Starting on a Vee-strom will hold you back, and you will be that wobbly guy everybody stays away from for far, far longer than if you started smaller and upgraded after a year or two.

The Vee is a doable second bike or a great third bike, but wildly unsuitable for a beginner machine. Check out beginnerbikers.org for some good advice around bike choices.

The Wee, correspondingly, is a so-so first bike but a fantastic second bike.

My advice would be to start with a 50 or less, 500 lbs or less beater for a year or so (assuming you ride pretty frequently.) You'll learn a lot about riding, develop your skills much more rapidly than you would on a bike that punishes every newbie twitch or hamhand, and will get a lot more enjoyment out of a strom when you move up to one. (also, small beaters can generally be sold for the same as you bought them even after a year's riding, which means you're not burning any money other than gas.)

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The tall height of the Stroms and being top heavy, is more of an issue than engine size.

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If you do a search, and you probably won’t find it, but there was a guy in your same shoes who asked the same questions and got the same answers. He was a tall guy and wanted the taller Vee. He ignored all advise, bought the Vee and enjoyed the HELL out of it during the two or three years he owned it.

Though I wouldn’t advise it for everyone, but many people start out on bigger more powerful bikes than the Vee and do just fine. I’m one of them…and I’m 5’7”. But since I’m an exceptionally gifted individual, I’m a bad example to live up to.

In the case of the Vee however, it’s more of a height thingy, especially for the height challenged individual, than a weight or power issue.

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A Ninja 500 would be a decent bike that you could grow with for a year or two. The handle well and have enough grunt to keep you happy.

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My first bike was a wee, only because im a rather big guy. It was rather hard controling all that weight at low speeds for a long time, and lead to slow learning. I did drop it once, but lightly with very little dmg. I tried a friends DL1000, and found it a LOT more difficult to ride. #1, that 50 pounds is VERY NOTICEABLE! #2, the power curv is VERY unfriendly to new users. Its a BEAST to controle at low speeds if you dont have experience. I promply dropped my friends 1K on a U-turn and paid for some plastics.

After riding the two as a new rider, I would say the 1K is VERY unfriendly. The Wee is not the most friendly bike, but its a LOT better then the 1K for new users due to its friendly power curv and lighter weight.

After going big for my 1st bike, I look back and wished I had gotten something small and cheep first, to build up confidence in my riding BEFORE I got the Strom. I say get a 250CC Night Hawk or something like that for a year and ride the HE11 out of it!!! Youll learn a LOT faster, and NOT be so scared of scratching it up. There are two types of riders. Those that have been down, and those who will go down some day. Trust me, your better off going down on something like the Night Hawk then a 1K!!!!!!

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post #8 of 35 Old 12-17-2008, 07:44 PM Thread Starter
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I appreciate all the comments. I am 6'1" and about 220 lbs. so I don't think the height would be an issue. I like the upright seating position of the Wee that I sat on. Do the smaller Ninjas have a real stretched out position or are they fairly humane. I am 41 and have the back to prove it after a wasted youth in contstuction refusing help lifting things. I don't mind starting with a smaller bike, but I am not terribly drawn to the cruiser style.
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Go for the Wee. I've been riding for 35 years and have gone full circle. I started with small bikes and worked my way up to a number of large bore bikes. I found that having all that power got me in trouble and trouble is very expensive nowadays. I purchased a Wee and love it. Put on a taller seat and maybe bar risers, take it out and learn to ride. The Wee has all you need for a long time.
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Lots of good advice so far. I can't weigh in on the wee, but from my perspective the seat height, weight and power are the main factors. If you are 6'-1" with a 33" inseam then maybe the wee is a good fit. These are tall bikes and that can be a problem at slow speeds. You'll find the engine guards are real popular on this site
I'm 5'-10" with a 30" inseam. Seriously thinking of lowering my vee for more control at awkward stops.
Good luck to you!
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