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post #1 of 19 Old 04-28-2016, 06:35 PM Thread Starter
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Red face R1200 GSA to DL 1000? Pros? Cons?

Hi all,

New to Stromtrooper.com and have some questions. Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated.

I/we currently ride a BMW R1200 GSA (2011). We bought it new three years ago and currently have 90K on the clock, most of it two up. Alaska to Guatemala and pretty much every point in between.

My pillion is 4-8 and 90 lbs, I am an even 6-2 and 200 lbs. We love touring, forest service roads, and unimproved dirt...

I am getting increasing dissatisfied with the maint/operational costs of riding my GSA. It is a fabulous bike that has taken us everywhere, but $1000 12K services are killing me, especially since I retired a couple of years ago.

Here goes:

Any other V Strom riders two up who've gone from BMW to Suzuki

Am I "trading down" to purchase a V Strom? RE: shaft drive, more amperage, horsepower, mpg, wind protection, etc, etc. What are your thoughts?

The GSA is superb for long distance touring with its electronic suspension adjustment, ABS brakes, pillion comfort.. How does the big V Strom stack up?

How often are services performed?

Many thanks for your responses. I've always liked the looks and the fact that there are lots of aftermarket off pavement goodies to add to this bike-just like BMW, LOL.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts...
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post #2 of 19 Old 04-28-2016, 06:42 PM
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Two total different bikes that have no comparison besides price n service. The V-strom is maintenance free compared to the BMW.

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post #3 of 19 Old 04-28-2016, 06:56 PM
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R1200 GSA to DL 1000? Pros? Cons?

1000 dollar services😱

That's what it cost to service the strom for a lifetime

It's like 40 bucks to change the oil. That and a valve check every 50k or so and that's it 😀

I've seen it said here before and on other forums. The Strom is 90 percent of the bike for 50 percent of the cost

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post #4 of 19 Old 04-28-2016, 07:00 PM Thread Starter
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What about ride quality? Two up touring? The DL is a hugely popular bike-I see them all over the place up here in the PNW where I live.

When you say "no comparision" what does that mean to you?

Many thanks for your earlier reply!
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post #5 of 19 Old 04-28-2016, 07:05 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks, NSDave,

Lower service costs are very important to me, but so is the quality of the riding experience, especially two up and long distance touring. The big GSA is powerful, extremely comfortable and earns about 43 mpg on a near nine gallon gas fill up.

What are some bonuses I'll see with the DL? What about drawbacks?? I appreciate your candid responses...
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post #6 of 19 Old 04-28-2016, 07:10 PM
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The Strom won't have electronic suspension adjustment, but you won't ever have to pay to have electronic suspension repaired. You still have ABS and comfort should be fine, YMMV.
Having owned a shaft drive (1972 R60) years ago and come back to chains, you will miss the low maintenance and cleanliness, but then you won't have to pay for repairs on the shaft. A chain oiler helps a lot.
I miss the old R60 for its very easy maintenance (valve clearance check, 10 minutes) but am getting used to the idea that while the Strom is not easy to work on due to extensive plastics and complex systems (FI, ABS, too many OHC), it just doesn't need to be worked on.

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post #7 of 19 Old 04-28-2016, 07:12 PM
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A phrase I found on this forum , The Vstrom is "All the GS without the BS"
I can only imagine it might be like going from a sedan to a ute (pickup?)
I reckon you,d find the Vstrom a tiny bit agricultural compared to the GS, but you'll soon warm to it and appreciate its honesty and enjoy "engaging" in the ride a bit more
Another benefit is you dont have wear the full BMW adventure suits and have aluminum panniers that cost a fortune. Any Vstrom looks "right" no matter what you hang on or off it,or how dirty it is
The $$ you save on servicing will afford many many miles of happy travels

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Being a BMW owner I cannot imagine why you are paying $1000 for a 12K service? The new GS/GSA are cheaper to maintain btw. While I have a spot for the V Strom, I am not so blindly in love with them to think it would replace a GSA. Totally different animals. You would be much better off with a new Super Tenere if you just don't want to consider a new BMW. The DL 1000 is way down on power to the new BMW and you would likely have to spend money on the suspension right away. No cruise control either. But, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the DL 1000, it is light in weight and certainly reliable. But it too has to have the valves checked and it will cost more to do them on the DL 1000 than the BMW. Then there is the cost of chains and sprockets and lube. I would absolutely recommend you ride one first......
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post #9 of 19 Old 04-28-2016, 07:28 PM
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A Yamaha Super Tenere could also be considered. It has a lot of the options that the GS has (like cruise control, traction control, electronically adjustable suspension, shaft drive) without the big ticket purchase price and higher maintenance costs. I use mine for a lot of two up touring (20,000 miles so far), and it's an excellent touring platform. When I bought mine in 2014 at Romney Cycles, they were running at just about the same price as the new DL1000 (which is what I originally thought about getting). So far, I've loved every minute of owning it.
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I lust after the GSA, however, unless I win the lottery, ain't gunna happen. All I can add is I loved my K1200 LTC, but never could find the time for any extended trips. The maintenance costs were killing me. And then, just outside of warranty, the ABS unit crapped out on me. Brought it in for yet another attempted repair to find out a needed replacement unit was about $2,500 (if memory serves). Right then and there at the dealership, I was totally disgusted with the situation and wandered around the showroom. What the hell is that, I asked the sales dude... Pretty fugly looking bike, but sure is a comfortable riding position! Oh, that's a VStrom! A few moments of reflection and we cut a deal to trade my BMW pig in on a brand new in the crate 2007 DL1000. I waited there and watched them assemble my new ride. Never looked back. Best bike for me. Loved it so much, just traded that in for a new 2014 Vee 2 last year for all the upgrades the new model offers. YMMV, but this bike serves me well and is very affordable to run and maintain.

Later, I learned I fit the VStrom demographic perfectly: cheap, old grey haired, white men! Lol
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