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post #1 of 31 Old 09-14-2014, 05:56 PM Thread Starter
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Honda ST1300A owner considering downsizing

I'm considering downsizing to a 2013-2014 Wee and I see a few former ST1300 owners here who have made that change, and I'd love to hear from a few... I just find that the ST1300, while great for trips like my 7000 miler out west last year, really doesn't like to be lugging along at 25-40 mph (most roads around here), and I'm getting tired out throwing around all that heft. I ride 98% solo and my wife hates the highway. This sounds like a great way to get out on more local roads, plus I have a place out in Arizona where this type of bike could open up more possibilities.

I've had my eye on a 2014 DL650 down in Baltimore for $6999 that I could easily fly & ride to get, but I haven't had the chance to ride a Wee or Vee yet. My local dealer only has older models on the floor and a 2014 Tenere. I like the sounds of the DL650 and all reviews I've read seem like it would fit my bill. I'm 5'8" with a 30" inseam and have 1" lifts in my riding boots.

My concerns are 1) What's the difference between the 2013 & 2014 Wee? 2) How would the DL650 be loaded 2-up through the mountains? I'm used to riding a rocket when it comes to passing and acceleration, even weighing in at nearly 1200 pounds fully loaded up. 3) What "accessories" would be tops on the list? My guess (for me) is cases, center stand, skid plate, windshield, hand guards, 12V power, cruise control of some sort. So I'm prolly looking at $9000 when I'm done? My ST1300 is worth around $8500 as is.

That's all I have for now, but I am definitely interested in the "adventure bike" aspect and the Zooks seem to be a reliable, enjoyable bike. I look forward to any feedback ya'll can provide. Thanks!

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I went down a similar path back in '06. Had a Concours, and was tired of the weight and heat.
Bought an '07 Wee and couldn't be happier.
You'll give up some passing power in the mountains, but I've never found it to be a problem. Just an extra downshift usually takes care of it.

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You don't need the skid plate for on-road. Add a fork brace. 2013 had blue or white. 2014 offered red or white. That's it. If you're 2-up in the mountains, maybe put on a 14 tooth front sprocket instead of the 15. It only takes a few minutes.

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the 12 is the same as 13/14 except color. I've got the adv with lots of extras... tell me about your bike...i'm always looking...

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I am looking to get something like a st1300 or fjr for some longer trips, such as a trip out west. Any thoughts or suggestions would be awesome. I see some st and fjr on craigslists and see many st1300 with over 50,000 miles. I don't want one with that high of mileage but that is a good sign. I will keep my 650 for weekend trips and what not.

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For the record, I have a 2008 ST1300 ABS that I bought new. It has 26,000 miles and runs like a top. These machines are notorious for running 150,000 miles EASILY, and we have 1 guy in our [forum] that has over 400,000 on his ST1100. It's a Honda V-4... what more can you say? I have a few farkles on it like Givi E-52 trunk w/Admorelighting, HID, cruise, Stebel, fuse block, Re-molded (Spencer) seat, 12V outlets, etc. It's cost me nothing but tires (PR3), fluids & filters (Rotella T6/Mobil-1) and has had 99% high-test since new. It is in near-mint condition (3/8" rub on left mirror from a van in a garage GRRRR) and worth around $8500 as is. It has a 7.7 gallon tank that I got 350 miles out of while in Yellowstone last year (275 locally and I always fill it up before it starts blinking). It's always on a Tender and gets Seafoam and Stabil in the winter. I have heated gear so I ride if it's not TOO cold to keep the gas fresh :-) My longest day was 892 miles Kentucky to Mass. with no fatigue. The ST1300 was built for long distance touring and is a favorite of many Iron Butt riders along with the FJR. If I was to buy a brand new one, I would choose the FJR now since it comes with cruise, electronic suspension and heater grips stock.

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This sounds more than fair for a 2009... is it?

2009 Suzuki DL650 VStrom. 14,500 mile dealer service just completed including valve adjustment. Many extras (see photos) Acerbis hand guards, pyramid front fender extender, PIAA auxiliary lights, GIVI wind screen, GIVI side crash bars, Amotostuff skid plate (Adventure MotoStuff LLC), CRG brake lever, Pazzo clutch lever, Zeta aluminum handlebar & billet aluminum mount, Hepco & Becker aluminum top case, SW Motech aluminum side cases. Meticulously maintained. $5,500 or best offer. Bike currently has 15,500 miles.

Looks like about $1700 in accessories... Again, I can't add a pic for some reason but the bike looks very clean and well set up. I won't be able to go see it until 9/27 (300 miles south) if it's still available.
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For the record, I have a 2008 ST1300 ABS that I bought new. It has 26,000 miles and runs like a top. These machines are notorious for running 150,000 miles EASILY, and we have 1 guy in our [forum] that has over 400,000 on his ST1100. It's a Honda V-4... what more can you say? I have a few farkles on it like Givi E-52 trunk w/Admorelighting, HID, cruise, Stebel, fuse block, Re-molded (Spencer) seat, 12V outlets, etc. It's cost me nothing but tires (PR3), fluids & filters (Rotella T6/Mobil-1) and has had 99% high-test since new. It is in near-mint condition (3/8" rub on left mirror from a van in a garage GRRRR) and worth around $8500 as is. It has a 7.7 gallon tank that I got 350 miles out of while in Yellowstone last year (275 locally and I always fill it up before it starts blinking). It's always on a Tender and gets Seafoam and Stabil in the winter. I have heated gear so I ride if it's not TOO cold to keep the gas fresh :-) My longest day was 892 miles Kentucky to Mass. with no fatigue. The ST1300 was built for long distance touring and is a favorite of many Iron Butt riders along with the FJR. If I was to buy a brand new one, I would choose the FJR now since it comes with cruise, electronic suspension and heater grips stock.

I'd insert a pick of mine, but it only allows it from a link, not a file for some reason... even in Advanced mode.
I'm leaning towards the FJR because of those reasons. The ST does sounds like an awesome bike though!

As for the picture you have to get an account at something like photobucket, upload there and then link it to here.

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2014 V Strom 650 - V46 topcase, E41 side cases, Suzuki lower fairing, Givi Airflow windscreen, Ram mount handlebar mount and pda case for my phone, 12v power at handlebars, Dan Vesel Highway bars with Rivco pegs, Dan Vesel passenger peg relocate with Kuryakyn bolt on floor boards, Adventure Tech fork brace, Extuff helmet hooks, Ram mount cup holder, 12v/usb/voltage meter all in one mounted to brake reservoir, Happy Trail center stand, SV racing foam grip covers, Kolpin handlebar mitts, Moose Contour hand guards.

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This sounds more than fair for a 2009... is it?

2009 Suzuki DL650 VStrom. 14,500 mile dealer service just completed including valve adjustment. Many extras (see photos) Acerbis hand guards, pyramid front fender extender, PIAA auxiliary lights, GIVI wind screen, GIVI side crash bars, Amotostuff skid plate (Adventure MotoStuff LLC), CRG brake lever, Pazzo clutch lever, Zeta aluminum handlebar & billet aluminum mount, Hepco & Becker aluminum top case, SW Motech aluminum side cases. Meticulously maintained. $5,500 or best offer. Bike currently has 15,500 miles.

Looks like about $1700 in accessories... Again, I can't add a pic for some reason but the bike looks very clean and well set up. I won't be able to go see it until 9/27 (300 miles south) if it's still available.
That sounds like a descent deal. I do not know much about the pre 2012. Mine is a '13. I believe they are very similar, the '12 and up I believe have slightly more electrical output, and slightly better suspension. And of course the styling is different.

Current:
2014 V Strom 650 - V46 topcase, E41 side cases, Suzuki lower fairing, Givi Airflow windscreen, Ram mount handlebar mount and pda case for my phone, 12v power at handlebars, Dan Vesel Highway bars with Rivco pegs, Dan Vesel passenger peg relocate with Kuryakyn bolt on floor boards, Adventure Tech fork brace, Extuff helmet hooks, Ram mount cup holder, 12v/usb/voltage meter all in one mounted to brake reservoir, Happy Trail center stand, SV racing foam grip covers, Kolpin handlebar mitts, Moose Contour hand guards.

1982 Honda XL 250
1981 Honda XL 185
1990 KX 250
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2001 Yamaha FZ1
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Well, my local dealer is bringing in a 2104 Wee for Saturday so I can test ride it. Weather forecast is sunny and 75 so hopefully it will work out. I'm going to try and get it for $7500 out the door if I like it and then will sell my ST1300 in the spring for around $8000-$8500.
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