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post #1 of 10 Old 03-12-2008, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
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Recommended this way, buncha quick questions.

I'm 6'8", 36" inseam. The inseam isn't always the problem; I'm used to my legs being contorted. The problem is more often the torso; if I have to lean forward, my torso puts me *way* farther forward on the bike that usually is intended, or seated much more upright, or both, which leaves me uncomfortable as all get out.

So, I posted to Livejournal's Motorcycles community with a question; where to find a bike that fits? The additional stipulation was that I'm looking for between a 750 and 1100, really like gas mileage, see myself doing both short (5 mile) and medium (100 mile) distances on the bike, and consider 75 mph a high top end. My previous experience is small and midsized cruisers, although I haven't ridden for years. (Signed up for an MSF course, again, as a refresher.)

The forum there came back resoundingly: look at dual sport bikes. The ergonomics work for tall folks. So, that brings me here.

1. My understanding is that frame-wise, the V and Wee just have different seats, and that you can put a V seat on a Wee. That true?

2. Besides seats, any recommended accessories? Any good aftermarket windscreens, to get the air up over my head?

3. What's the MPG difference between a V and Wee? I'm not really that concerned on initial purchase price, but "maintenance" and "gasoline", I am concerned on.

4. I could see strapping some camping gear to this 10% of the time and going a few hundred miles, but I couldn't see myself riding more than 10 miles with a passenger. If I'm not often riding two up, Wee?

5. Any reason this seems to be an incredibly rare bike on Ebay and Craigslist? Really small production runs, or are you guys that fanatic about holding onto them?

6. What's the maintenance like on the bike? My cruiser experience was direct or belt drive, not a chain, so I'm a bit outta my experience again.

7. Any tall folks out there?

8. More comfy than a cruiser, for you?

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1. True

2. Lots of after market windscreens are available an the Madstad bracket is a big hit to allow better adjustability. A custom screen may be you best bet being so tall. http://www.mpcycledesign.com/ is a favorite place of mine.

3. The Wee gets a good 10mpg better under most conditions. At speeds over 75mph with a load, the Vee's extra torque evens things out.

4. The Wee will handle that easily unless you are a power rush junkie.

5. Most people are into throw away cruisers and sport bikes. Strom owners know what they want and keep them.

6. The chain likes lube every 500 miles or so. Dupont multi purpose lube with Teflon from Lowes or sometimes Ace dries after application and stays clean.

7. There are posts here from people 6'-10" and over.

8. If they read, they will reply.

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Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 DL1000s. Vee2=2014-2016 DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 DL650s. Glee = 2012-2016 DL650s
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The forum there came back resoundingly: look at dual sport bikes. The ergonomics work for tall folks. So, that brings me here.

1. AFAIK, yes, though I am short of leg, and have no reason to have tried.

2. See above. I'm quite happy getting "beaten up" by the factory piece, but that's just me. I grew up riding a Honda XL 185, and there was simply no wind protection worth mentioning on it, so I guess I'm just used to it.

3. As was mentioned, most people mention approx 10 MPG difference. I have been getting a regular 48-54 on the highway, dipping down to 43 in town when the tank is consumed on short trips only (3 miles or less each trip). I can see the Wee having tires/chains and sprockets lasting longer, as there is less power that si being pushed through them.

4. I've been as high as 270, well before ATGATT, and commuted with a larger backpack 103 miles each way for a while, not a problem. Not sure that I would want to throw 2 of me on the bike for those sort of distances, but you could.

5. Who wants to get rid of it? Not I.

6. Not terrible, keep the chain lubed and you should be good. Oil changes are fairly easy, valve adjustments can get involved, but that's what owning a motorcycle is all about. Still easier than working on either my Miata or my Jetta TDI.

7. Tall in the torso, short in the leg.

8. Never really rode cruisers, as I prefer to be upright as opposed to leaning back, puts me to sleep.

Where are you in the midatlantic? I'm in Charlottesville, VA.

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Only thing I can help you with is #7. I'm 6'7, 250 lbs with a 36" inseam and I don't feel like I have to lean forward over the tank to ride. I own a wee and I haven't had any power problems, even with a extra 170lbs on the back with another rider.
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I'm 6 foot, 33" inseem, but I'll chime in with #8, as the self-proclaimed local cruiser guy

I have a VTX 1300C, which is considered a medium size cruiser. In terms of comfort, I would say they're vastly different, but equally comfortable.

My cruiser seat is amazing, I have a backrest, but my legs are a little cramped (should have gotten the 1800). Also, the handlebars are a bit too forward for me, causing me some shoulder and neck pain (I have neck issues). I'm looking into new handlebars to fix that, but overall, the X is very comfortable.

I've only had my Wee for 2 days now, but it's very comfortable as well. I sit more upright, so my neck and shoulders are more happy, and I like having my legs more underneath me. The bike feels WAY lighter and is easier to control, and with much less engine vibration, it seems a lot easier to just go, and go, and go, and go.

I think you should definitely try to test ride the 650 and the 1000. My guess is that you'll fine one more comfortable than the other, but that both will fit you like a glove.

Having said all that... have you tried sitting on a KTM 950 or 990? I can just barely tip-toe the 950, so with your long legs, that bike might be perfect. KTM's are a bit pricey, might have some more maintenance issues, but they have a huge following as well.

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Tall riders like these dual sport bikes because they have lots of leg room, that's true. But if I were 6'8 I'd consider a bike that really fits. (Although, hello! Nothing in this world fits people that tall. You must be used to things that don't fit.)

The only bike that probably really truely fits very tall riders that I've seen is a BMW. The GS1150A, and presumably the newer GS1200A if they have made that model yet. That bike is humongous, just gigantic. Of course with Barvarian bikes, there is a hefty price of admission and you sound sensible about expenses since you mentioned gas mileage. BMW's cost so much you wouldn't be able to worry about that.

Might be worth a look at least.

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7. Tall in the torso, short in the leg.

Where are you in the midatlantic? I'm in Charlottesville, VA.
Got a chance to sit on one, and my legs were a bit tight compared to what I'm used to (cruisers), but the ergonomics for the upper body were excellent. Really looking into these, now.

Washington, DC. Was just down to Monticello last weekend, which wouldda made a much nicer ride on a bike than in the car. :-)
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Only thing I can help you with is #7. I'm 6'7, 250 lbs with a 36" inseam and I don't feel like I have to lean forward over the tank to ride. I own a wee and I haven't had any power problems, even with a extra 170lbs on the back with another rider.
*Excellent*. That may be the perfect endorsement. :-)

Any trouble with your legs cramping up? I usually rode cruisers, so this whole "legs bent under me" thing is new. Someone was mentioning somewhere online that they'd made a bracket to slightly lower the foot controls, and that could be interesting, if I can find it...
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Tall riders like these dual sport bikes because they have lots of leg room, that's true. But if I were 6'8 I'd consider a bike that really fits. (Although, hello! Nothing in this world fits people that tall. You must be used to things that don't fit.)

The only bike that probably really truely fits very tall riders that I've seen is a BMW. The GS1150A, and presumably the newer GS1200A if they have made that model yet. That bike is humongous, just gigantic. Of course with Barvarian bikes, there is a hefty price of admission and you sound sensible about expenses since you mentioned gas mileage. BMW's cost so much you wouldn't be able to worry about that.

Might be worth a look at least.
Most things don't fit just perfect at this height; everything is mass-produced, and I'm far enough taller than the average (and thinner than the tall average) that it's a guessing game.

Got to sit on a Weestrom over the weekend, really found it more comfortable than anything except large cruisers. If I was going the large cruiser route, I'd prefer to go the BMW route as well... perhaps that can wait a few years, but unless I found a ridiculously good used deal on one, it's gonna have to.

If only the Germans were short and the Asians were tall, I'd be in luck. :-P
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*Excellent*. That may be the perfect endorsement. :-)

Any trouble with your legs cramping up? I usually rode cruisers, so this whole "legs bent under me" thing is new. Someone was mentioning somewhere online that they'd made a bracket to slightly lower the foot controls, and that could be interesting, if I can find it...
Only leg cramping I experienced was on a charity ride last summer. We rode for 2 1/2 hours straight, and since it was police escorted, we didn't even stop for a traffic light. There was no opportunity to put my feet on the ground the whole time. As we were filing into a park at the end, we got stacked up and every person in front of me was fidgeting and standing up, we were all miserable. So, I would say under normal circumstances, I have not noticed any cramping.

Only thing I have seen as far as changing foot placement are some forward pegs. I'll post the eBay link, but mods feel free to delete if warranted. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/V-STR...em160219463130
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