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post #1 of 38 Old 07-18-2014, 10:23 PM Thread Starter
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650 or 1000??????

Hi all i'm new to this site as i currently ride a 2012 Speed Triple but not for long it's up for sale, i am keen on a v strom but not sure on what one to buy i know the vstrom will provide the comfort i'm chasing and will suit the crappy "tar" roads we have here in the Hunter Valley i do day rides up to 500kms .
The question i have is two up riding on a 650cc, will the bike handle it as i'm planing to have it long term.
The bike loaded up with a gear sack, rider 80kg, passanger 60kg ?
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post #2 of 38 Old 07-19-2014, 03:11 AM
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For me, the 650 has just enough power for 2-up. You will need at least a new rear spring.

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post #3 of 38 Old 07-19-2014, 07:52 AM
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Coming off that Triple I suspect you might find the 650 a little weak 2-up, definitely try it before you buy it.

I find the 650 power just fine for me personally and I am sure it would suffice 2-up, but it is not a rocket ship in my book and may be considered sluggish compared to that Triple - at least that's my recollection of riding the Triple.

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post #4 of 38 Old 07-19-2014, 07:03 PM
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Coming off that Triple I suspect you might find the 650 a little weak 2-up, definitely try it before you buy it.
I couldn't agree more
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What is the combined riding weight of rider, pax, luggage?

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post #6 of 38 Old 07-19-2014, 07:15 PM
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I'm a dedicated 650 man myself. That being said, I never ride 2-up. On the other hand, I go about 130kg myself alone, so your example weights should not be much of a strain on the bike. I've loaded mine up with about 35kg of gear and rode it for weeks with no problems. Did have to put a stronger rear spring on the original shock.
I came to the Vstrom from a Kawasaki Concours 14, so I am familiar with having lots of speed and power to play with. Honestly don't miss it one bit myself.
Despite all the mixed signals above, I'd have to say that if I was buying a brand new bike today, and was expecting to ride two-up, I'd get that sharp new 1000. (Even though I can't stand that "beak").
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post #7 of 38 Old 07-19-2014, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ProZac View Post
I couldn't agree more
me too. try it first.
I got the 650 and love it, though most of my riding is open highways and some days I'd really like to have the 1000.

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post #8 of 38 Old 07-19-2014, 10:57 PM
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I must have a great 650 then. I took it across country to the mountains of Colorado...many WAY up there. I weigh 200, and had both side cases and top cases loaded. Also had a dry bag across back seat with all the camping gear. Way heavy.

Rode it for many hours at very fast speeds on the interstates. It climbed every mountain pass very easily, and always had more speed/power on tap when I gave it more throttle. Didn't need to down shift on any of the road stretches.

My other bike is a Ultra Classic, lots of engine on that one producing mega torque. Didn't need that kind of power in my 650, it handled fine. So, never felt like I needed the 1000 to enjoy the ride at all.

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post #9 of 38 Old 07-21-2014, 03:16 AM
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I've had 2 1000 (first 2) and now I'm on my 4th 650. I'm abount 80 kg and must say with full luggage and some extras I have much more fun riding 650 on my longer trips then riding 1000. Being on both bikes on BRP was also in fevour of 650. Even highways are better on 650.(except much higher then leagal speeds). On 1000 you don't know either you should use 5th gear or OD. None seems to be right. On 650 just go in 6th and cruise. Not much experience 2up end the luggage. Only me and my wife (about 65kg) 650 is just fine. Just today I was reading the story: the guy had 650, then met the girl. They started to ride together. He decided to get 1000. Then they got married and had kids. She didn't ride with him anymore. Today he is wondering why he ever decided to selL the Wee...

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post #10 of 38 Old 07-22-2014, 05:24 PM
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Here's the hypothetical I'm curious about: I buy the 1000 to make sure I have plenty of power for 2 up riding. 2 up riding turns out to be rare. Why do I regret my choice of not getting the Wee?
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