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post #1 of 12 Old 06-22-2014, 12:43 AM Thread Starter
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How to deal with dealers

I'm very new to biking (less than 6 months) but I'm sold on the Vstrom 650 for my next bike. However, I'm finding it very hard to decide how to buy one. First, I'd like a 2012+ model, non-adventure, but that pretty much means getting one from a dealer. I've been looking around the OC and LA areas, but my first trips haven't gone well, and I'm looking for some advice from the experts.

I note the MSRP of about $8500.00 for the 2014 models, but the tags at the dealers all show tax and title, freight, assembly and whatever else, so the out-the-door price is around $10,500.00. For some reason I thought I could get out the door for the MSRP, but evidently I can't, at least in southern California.

The 2013 models, however, are (not surprisingly) less, but still around $9500.00 out the door. Now I've noticed on the net, like on ebay and cycletrader and forums, that there are some out-the-door 2013 models for under $7500.00, which is very nice; even with Cali tax the total would still be under $8000.00.

For some reason I can only find these deals on the East Coast, in places like West Virginia and North Carolina. That's a long ride for a fly-and-drive, but I may end up doing it anyway. Unless some of you can give me some advice on how to deal with a dealer a lot closer to SoCal, to get a comparable price on a new 2013 (or 14) model. Does anyone have any suggestions, or shout-outs to more reasonable local dealers?

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Have you tried Bert's Mega Mall? Friends got their Triumphs there cus Pro Italia wouldn't budge on the price. It's an ugly big box but take your patience and miserly ways and give it a try. It's on Hwy39 (Azusa Ave) north of the 10 Fwy.
They always tell me the listed price is subject to change.
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I thought I had read an exchange between some California motorcyclists on another forum that out-of-state bikes can't be brought in to California and titled/registered unless they have 7,000 miles or so on them. I don't recall if it was due to emissions or just some bureacratic nonsense, but definitely check out that aspect before thinking aboiut making a deal in Nevada or Arizona, etc.

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It's about emissions. A bike without a California legal sticker on its emissions sticker has to have 7500 miles on it to be registered. My last two bikes came from Ohio and Indiana and both were California legal (E-33 variants).

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
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Thanks all for the advice. I didn't know about that California legal issue. I'll be sure to look into that. I'll give Bert's a shot too.
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Any new bike sold in AZ must meet California smog regs. Now, how that affects the 7,500 mile rule, I'm not sure. Just thought I'd mention it...

If the price really is right, and you can get cheap airfare, etc., fly-n-rides can be feasible. ..and fun. Probably means time off from work, etc...

When I bought my 650 Ninja, I was able to fly to Houston, camp two nights on the way back, fuel, eats, so on and so forth, and was still over $1,500.00 ahead of any local dealer. It was truly an excellent deal.

About three weeks later I traded the Ninja (took a huge hit, of course) on a 650 V-Strom. So much for 'good' deals...lol
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Just my understanding, and I've never been in California, but the 7500 mile rule was applicable back when manufacturers actually made 49 state legal bikes and Cali legal bikes. Now that everyone just makes them all the same to meet all the regs ( as it's cheaper to manufacture just one version instead of two), it doesn't matter where you buy, you can register a new bike in Cali.
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Just my understanding, and I've never been in California, but the 7500 mile rule was applicable back when manufacturers actually made 49 state legal bikes and Cali legal bikes. Now that everyone just makes them all the same to meet all the regs ( as it's cheaper to manufacture just one version instead of two), it doesn't matter where you buy, you can register a new bike in Cali.
Thanks, that would explain the email I got today from the East Coast dealer, who said his bike already has the Cali sticker. If they're all doing 50 state bikes now, then anything after 2013 or so should be good. Still glad I double checked.
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Suzuki manufactures several variants. E-33 is California and E-3 is the 49 state model. My 2007 Wee was purchased in Ohio and the 2012 Glee was purchased in Indiana. Both were E-33s.

E-02 U. K.
E-03 U. S. A. (Except for California)
E-19 EU
E-24 Australia
E-28 Canada
E-33 California (U. S. A.)

Pat- 2007 DL650A was ridden to all 48 contiguous states. I didn't quite make it to 17,000 miles on the 2012 DL650A.
Nicknames I use to lessen typing, Vee = 2002-2012 DL1000s. Vee2=2014-2016 DL1000s. Wee = 2004-2011 DL650s. Glee = 2012-2016 DL650s
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