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post #1 of 28 Old 06-08-2014, 03:10 PM Thread Starter
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premium fuel availability?

Hello all

I have pretty much decided that I am going for the 2014 vstrom 1000. I was reading about it and found out that the fuel should be at least at 90 octanes.

I was wondering what do you guys do if you are riding to those remote places where they only have regular gas? Are there any fuel additives that can boost the octane levels?

Thanks in advance.
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I was reading about it and found out that the fuel should be at least at 90 octanes.
What system? What part of the world?

There are two systems of measuring the gasoline's octane rating. Research Octane Number (RON) is one way to test. A different test is the Motor Octane Number (MON). They test different attributes of the gasoline. Most of of the world uses RON. The U.S. & Canada use an Anti-knock Index (AKI) that is the numerical average of RON & MON. The AKI number is about 4 to 5 points lower than the RON for the same gas.

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What system? What part of the world?

There are two systems of measuring the gasoline's octane rating. Research Octane Number (RON) is one way to test. A different test is the Motor Octane Number (MON). They test different attributes of the gasoline. Most of of the world uses RON. The U.S. & Canada use an Anti-knock Index (AKI) that is the numerical average of RON & MON. The AKI number is about 4 to 5 points lower than the RON for the same gas.
Well in the US.

So what if the anti knock index is lower than recommended then can it be improved by additives?
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I wouldn't obsess about it. I asked the Suzuki rep about it at an IMS show. He claims they will run on regular but that its not optimum for the bike.
It is a bad show on Suzuki's part to build a so called 'adventure bike' that needs premium but they're not the only ones to do so.
As for octane booster it can be bought commonly in many shops, you can always chuck a bottle in your saddle bag for just in case if it worries you.

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I wouldn't obsess about it. I asked the Suzuki rep about it at an IMS show. He claims they will run on regular but that its not optimum for the bike.
It is a bad show on Suzuki's part to build a so called 'adventure bike' that needs premium but they're not the only ones to do so.
As for octane booster it can be bought commonly in many shops, you can always chuck a bottle in your saddle bag for just in case if it worries you.
I had the same question in mind. I am planning to attend Suzuki bike show in the month of June and will ask the same question to the rep.

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Hello all

I have pretty much decided that I am going for the 2014 vstrom 1000. I was reading about it and found out that the fuel should be at least at 90 octanes.

I was wondering what do you guys do if you are riding to those remote places where they only have regular gas? Are there any fuel additives that can boost the octane levels?

Thanks in advance.
If you are riding in the U.S.A., I have never encountered a station that did not have high octane fuel. Maybe 40-50 years ago, but not now. I would be shocked if you were not able to find high octane gas at any station in the U.S.A.
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If you are riding in the U.S.A., I have never encountered a station that did not have high octane fuel. Maybe 40-50 years ago, but not now. I would be shocked if you were not able to find high octane gas at any station in the U.S.A.
Get ready to be shocked then because I can show you numerous stations in small towns that don't offer premium fuel. Its not that uncommon really.

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If you are riding in the U.S.A., I have never encountered a station that did not have high octane fuel. Maybe 40-50 years ago, but not now. I would be shocked if you were not able to find high octane gas at any station in the U.S.A.
I find premium to be much harder to find in the remote areas than beer in a dry county. My other bikes require premium; nice to have a bike that doesn't should I have as much trouble finding it as I have in the past (always carried a bottle of octane booster, not anymore.).

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Higher octane in a low compression engine does not give you more power, if anything it takes away power. Here is a good explanation on fuel from Dragon racing fuels that was posted on vitalmx.com.

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In our first segment of many I would like to help everyone learn more about performance fuels. We will go into more detail in the upcoming segments of fuel facts.

Possibly one of the most misunderstood parts of performance or racing in general is racing fuels. Most racers, parents, and mechanics have an opinion about what fuel works best for them but most are wrong or just do not understand what to look for in a racing fuel. Dragon Racing Fuels would like to take a few minutes to help explain just what racers need to know or what to look for in a performance fuel.

First things first, we must understand octane. What is octane? Octane actually has two definitions, one is that octane is a flammable hydrocarbon liquid that along with other hydrocarbons – pentane, hexane, heptanes, and many others – is refined from crude oil and make up the blend of chemical components called gasoline. That is a chemical definition of octane and the other is that octane is a measure of a fuels tendency knock or ping when mixed with air and burned in the cylinder of an engine. Plain and simple octane is used to measure a fuels ability to resist detonation.

The next thing we need to know is how is the octane rating determined? Gasoline is subject to testing methods to establish its octane rating. One called the motor method, which runs the gasoline in an engine under load and is listed as the MON. The other test is called the research octane and this is run without load and will show larger numbers. This method is listed as the RON. What you see at the pump when stop to get gas is a pump octane number, which is the RON+MON/2. It is the average of the motor octane and the research octane.

One of the biggest myths about octane is that the higher the octane the hotter and faster it burns. The second biggest myth being that the higher the octane the more horsepower it makes. Both of these crazy myths are far from true. Actually the higher the octane the slower and cooler the fuel will burn and octane does not equal horsepower. You should use the lowest octane fuel that your engine can safely perform on. Because once again octane does not equal horsepower! It only serves as a level of protection from detonation or better known as the Death Rattle.

Once we can get past the discussion of octane, we have several other things we can talk about, like burning speed, energy value, and cooling effect. The burn speed is the speed that a fuel will release its energy. So if the fuel is still trying to burn beyond the point of peak cylinder pressure performance will be sacrificed. The energy value is the potential energy the fuel can produce. The energy value of a fuel is measured in BTU and not in pounds and the cooling effect is related to heat vaporization. Which means the higher the fuels heat vaporization the better the fuel can cool the intake charge into the engine. This can have a big effect on horsepower in today’s engines.

One more thing in today’s world of race fuel is you can use an oxygenated fuel. An oxygenated fuel has chemical properties to contain and carry added oxygen in the intake charge of fuel. If tuned correctly, oxygenated fuels can and will produce more horsepower and torque over a nonoxygenated fuel.

Make sure you stay tuned to Vurbmoto.com for the next segment of fuel facts brought to you from Dragon Racing Fuels and find out how you can come close to picking the correct race fuel for your dirt scooter.

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