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post #1 of 23 Old 03-27-2014, 03:59 AM Thread Starter
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Question 650 or 1000? Need to hear from 250# + riders!

To give you all the information; I'm looking to buy a Strom for my Brother. He's used to a 96 VFR750. He's also 5'11" and 300lbs.

Will the Wee/650's suspension handle him, or should I ONLY be looking at 1000's?

Yes, I do realize fork springs/rear shock are going to be upgraded/changed to deal with his size/weight, so the 650/1000 isn't that big of a deal. I'm thinking more ergonomics and handling once the suspension is beefed up.
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I'm a 250 lbs guy who rides a Vee (1000cc). Both bikes have the same ergonomics, apart from the seat. The stock Vee seat is taller than the seat on the 650cc bike. This will be an issue for someone less than 6' (I'm 6'1" so I quite like the extra height). You will probably have no trouble finding a vstrom owner willing to swap seats with you.

I have not modified the suspension. In fact I don't even have the preload set to max. The Vee allegedly has better forks (cartridge style) than the smaller bike but I don't know if it actually improves handling or increases it's maximum load. I believe the smaller bike is actually rated to carry more weight (since it's engine is lighter).

The 650cc bike was able to move me around perfectly well, but I personally found the 1000cc engine more enjoyable. The 650cc bike has fewer mechanical issues and is generally considered the more reliable and easier bike to own.

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All depends what style of riding he prefers. If you are planning to upgrade the suspension 650 should be ok, but of course 1000 will have more juice. I'm on my fifth V Strom right now. First 2 Vee and then 3 Wee. I prefer the Wee, but I'm only about 180 pounds though and most of the time don't need the extra horses. BTW there is VFR800 VTEC in my garage and I didn't ride it since I got my first V Strom.

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Both bikes will be able to "handle the weight" as the suspensions are not that different. It is fairly cheap and easy to put new valves and springs in the front suspension on the 650's or just springs in the 1000's. The rear shock is another, more expensive issue to solve.
Other than the seat they have basically the same ergonomics, which can be very good.
The 650 has enough power. The 1000 has more power. The 650 will cruise comfortably at an actual 80 mph and go up hills on the Interstates without dropping speed. But it is working a lot harder at those speeds than the 1000. Around town the 650 is a lot more refined in fueling, shifting, and typically gets a lot better fuel mileage. Cruising at 70 mph + the 1000 is loafing and can be smoother at those speeds. Might be more comfortable because of that for long distances.

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6'4" 3 bills. 1000 all the way for me. Yes , I've ridden both , and prefer the extra umph the 1000 makes without the drama. I've made upgrades , but even bone stock , it's an all around good bike.

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To give you all the information; I'm looking to buy a Strom for my Brother. He's used to a 96 VFR750. He's also 5'11" and 300lbs.

Will the Wee/650's suspension handle him, or should I ONLY be looking at 1000's?

Yes, I do realize fork springs/rear shock are going to be upgraded/changed to deal with his size/weight, so the 650/1000 isn't that big of a deal. I'm thinking more ergonomics and handling once the suspension is beefed up.
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I have never ridden a WEE, but my VEE moves effortlessly in the mountains here with me at 6' 250lb, passenger and three full hard cases. I have also cruised on the highway to the seaside all loaded down at 110mph for long stretches. Just to clarify, the way those in their BMW's, Audi's and Mercedes' drive on this stretch of highway you sort of have to keep pace... :biggrinjester:
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Sorry, I should have provided more background.
I currently own a SV650S, and have owned a 1000 V-Twin (Honda Superhawk).

I'm not worried about the engine. Just the suspension.

The SV650S simply is NOT setup for any rider over about 200. Front fork is just way too mushy, and the rear shock allows you to pre-load the hell out of it, but then it ends up over sprung and under damped.

The Superhawk had basically the same issues.

Now, comparing the Wee-Vee, if I go by what you guys say, there's no/not much ergo difference between the 650/1000 and little suspension/handling difference between the 650/1000. So the ONLY difference is powah? (moar powah ist gud)
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The cost of more power is less fuel efficiency. It all comes down to what your priorities are.

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Most of the Japanese test riders when developing the Vstrom were of similar weight, henceforth the burly wheels.

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