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post #1 of 13 Old 01-08-2014, 08:34 PM Thread Starter
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Question Thinking about a Vee from a VTX 1800r

I'm currintly riding a VTX 1800R and a Victory Vision. The Vision is a fantastic two up long distance bike and I'm happy with it. Got 70,000+ miles riding between those two bikes in the past couple of years.

My daily commute is about 100 miles round trip and the VTX is what I ride but the gas tank is small and there are a lot of dirt roads begging to be explored between here and work. Plus we live on a gravel road and at times the X can be a hand full.

Before the VTX and Vision I put 200,000+ miles on a couple of Valkyries. Rode XS1100's before the Valks, Had a couple of XJ's before the XS's and the last Suzuki I owned was a RE5 rotary which I put 60,000 miles on and regret selling to this day.

I like the raw power of the VTX and have the bike set up so handling is great on the open road and manageable on twisties but I made the mistake of riding a Vee after doing a lot of research on adventure bikes. It handles a lot better during a short test ride than the X. My wife had bet me I wouldn't like the Suzuki but even though she's generally right she was wrong about that!! A major irritant on my commute is that I have to add fuel every day on the VTX, it only gets about 140 miles to the tank even with a Power Commander set up for fuel mileage and the gas stations are too far apart even to run a day and a half.

So, can I run 200 miles on a tank of gas on a DL100? I wrench my bikes myself and assume the Vee is simple to take care of on basic maintenance. The dealer I test rode the Vee at was super friendly but the trade in on my VTX wasn't even close to trade in values for the bike and the X is in excellent shape while the V was in decent shape but ran like crap. It was in the teens out when I test rode and the bike acted like it had been sitting on the sales floor for a while.
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I think you will like the Vee over the VTX for the area that you live in however don't get too excited over the mpg advantage that the Vee has over the VTX.

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The fuel mileage is comparable then? I'm getting upper 30's on the VTX actual mileage. How about distance traveled on a tank of gas? The VTX runs regular gas just fine.
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I refuel my Vee after 300km of commuting, which is 187 miles. I usually have another 2 litres left in the tank at this point so I could feasibly get another 30+ km out of a tank. You can click on my signature to view my refuelling history if it's of interest. I'm averaging about 41mpg, but the fuel economy improves if you are doing highway riding. The Vee has a very tall top gear.

If the Vee you rode was running like crap it probably needs a power commander to sort out the fuelling, which is a common issue. You might want to budget for a Power Commander V which will sort it out.

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The size of the fuel tank is what you're after, comsumption may be a little better but should be able to get 200 miles on a tank, I can get 250-260 miles (before filling) on one tank of my 650 but only 150 miles on my VZ1600 (no matter how I ride it)
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The fuel mileage is comparable then? I'm getting upper 30's on the VTX actual mileage. How about distance traveled on a tank of gas? The VTX runs regular gas just fine.
You can get in the 40's but if you mess with the ECM like many of us here then you will see a decrease in mpg. Originally I was around 48-50 mpg but the bike ran like crap due to such a factory lean condition.
Many here, including me, have installed a Power Commander V to address this lean condition but have paid the price in fuel economy. This spring I plan to get it professionally dyno tuned to help get back some of my highway mpg.
Regardless, I love this bike and can't wait to start riding it to the mountains again this spring.

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Thanks for the words of wisdom gents! Your answers have been a huge help. Strangedog, thanks for posting your fuel ups, the differences between in town commuting and out of town are really interesting.

Now the fun continues of finding a used DL1000 I can afford in this area at a dealer who would consider a trade for a VTX!!!
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Found a 12 DL1000 Adventure with low miles on it for $6500.00 at a dealers and am heading to look at it tomorrow. If it is as the dealer says, I'll be driving it back home tomorrow.
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i went from a vtx1300 to a dl1000. One of the best choices i made. I will say you are going to miss the low end, tractor like pull of the vtx. I had the 1300 but i couldn't imagine the torque of the 1800! The other possible thing you are going to miss are the looks. I know looks are relative but those vtx's are great looking metric cruisers. Those might be the only two things. On the flip side the dl offers many more advantages. Here are just a few;
1. So much lighter. I know this will sound strange but I wear ATGATT. So there was no difference in preparing for the ride. I just seems easier to throw a leg over the dl and go as opposed to the x. Thats just out of the driveway! Once on the road the dl turns, handles, and feels so light.
2. Don't have to keep as clean. I liked my vtx clean. I like my dl clean. However if the dl doesn't get the polish and shine it deserves right away its not as noticeable. So more time to ride then shine.
3. You're friends will still ride with you. You're getting off a metric and going to another one so you get a pass. Unlike another brand that I won't mention. I did find out that friends still riding cruisers are a little jealous when I send pictures of me and the dl on fire and dirt roads.
4. Comfort. Yes the vtx is comfortable. I had an ultimate x seat on mine so it was even more comfy. However sitting on your tailbone in the cruiser position and sitting in a natural, upright position on the dl is night and day. Having the option to stand and stretch even for a few moments is great. Being able to use your legs and take some weight off your ass for a few moments is great.
5. Suspension. Although other adv bikes might have some higher end suspension components, riding a vtx and a dl is like riding a couch. That bump in the road that made your ass fly off the seat on the x is nothing to the dl.
6. Fuel mileage. You will most definitely get better mileage out of the dl1000 then the vtx1800. Right there is simple math, displacement. Another is wrist control. There are different people on this forum that have various mileages on the 1000. However if you plan on keeping your victory as a cruiser and are concerned about fuel mileage, you might want to consider the dl650. People are getting upwards of 50+MPG.
7. 2 up riding. You have the victory for that . The dl1000 is great 2 up. I hear the 650 isnt a slouch either.
Bottom line. These are great reliable motorcycles. Either the 1000 or 650. They are not perfect but then again I've never read an article that has a perfect bike. They do what they are supposed to do and do it well. I hope you pick one up and join the fun. Good luck with whatever you do.
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I came from a Harley Road King.
My Vee has been remapped to run correctly.
In mixed highway/urban riding it gets 35 mpg very consistently but I have it set rich at low RPMs to make it very ridable in traffic.

I get 180 miles on a tank and have 1/2 gallon to spare. I have checked around and my mileage is typical of a well tuned Vee. You may get in the mid 40s if you ride it like a scooter.

It runs fine on regular in the fall, winter and spring. In the summer I use premium to eliminate a very mild preignition under heavy load/acceleration that my bike has had since birth.

The Vee is a couch on wheels. If you want better mpg the wee is a nice option but it is not as fast or powerful as a Vee. Most wee owners seem more than satisfied with their machines and they typically do not require remapping to run well. Other than that the wee and Vee are essentially the same machine, same frame, same ergos....just a little power difference.

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