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post #1 of 25 Old 12-05-2013, 09:10 PM Thread Starter
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650 Engine Wear

Has anybody worn out a Wee engine? How many miles before it starts burning oil?
I ride conservatively--under 65mph, and have no need to race or get tickets. So I'm hoping that 100K miles would be within reason before it starts using a quart every couple K miles.
Possible?
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I'm hoping that 100K miles would be within reason before it starts using a quart every couple K miles.
Possible?
Highly likely at speeds under 70mph. Over that starts drawing oil out the breather, a phenomenon related to air flow having nothing to do with engine wear.

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oil consumption

my 1992 Japanese 4 banger car engine still uses essentially no oil, and its at 170,000 miles; why do you think that a lightly worked DL650 engine would be so much worse?

I have only found the American-made older generation engines use oil.
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my 1992 Japanese 4 banger car engine still uses essentially no oil, and its at 170,000 miles; why do you think that a lightly worked DL650 engine would be so much worse?

I have only found the American-made older generation engines use oil.
I too have a Japanese 4 banger car with just over 170K miles. Burns no oil. But it tachs at less than 3K on the fwy at 70mph. And that engine isn't even working. The DL650 is a lot smaller engine, working only 2 cylinders a bit harder at 70mph, and turning at about 5K. And bike engines are designed a lot lighter than car engines, and built for quick speed. Family cars are intentionally built for longevity even specifically at the expense of performance. Can't really compare car engines to bike engines.

Besides that, I have a Japanese V-twin with 56K miles that is already taking oil.
So I'm just trying to find out if Suzuki built a good, long-lasting engine. I'm getting very close to buying a Wee, but I want to know that I'm not going to regret spending my last $$ on my last bike that won't last me until I can't ride anymore.

Thanks for your note and your perspective; it is encouraging.
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Highly likely at speeds under 70mph. Over that starts drawing oil out the breather, a phenomenon related to air flow having nothing to do with engine wear.
Now THAT is fascinating!
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Unless you have a crystal ball nobody knows what a given bike will do for mileage. Out of a 1000 of them built a lot will run with no problem whatsoever, a few will be outstanding and a few will have some kind of a problem.
On the whole your odds are pretty good of getting 100k out of one of these as good as it gets really, especially at a low price point. If it doesn't then I guess it won't be your last bike.

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On the whole your odds are pretty good of getting 100k out of one of these as good as it gets really, especially at a low price point.
Thanks. Your crystal ball part sounds like my understanding of things, but the fact that you can feel pretty good about 100K makes good sense to me.
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Much of it is in your control. Do the maintenance as prescribed and you'll be fine. For example some people will tell you to ignore the 15k valve check because they usually don't need adjusting. Maybe, do you want to roll the dice and find out? You may well get away with it, then again maybe not.
Look on the 1000 section and you will find mention of one of those with somewhere near 300k on it that has never been apart. Routine maintenance by the book. I would call his one of the exceptional ones.
Or you can be like my friend who has somewhere over 60k on his 650. He changes oil here and there. Has no idea how many miles between services. Found out it was low on oil when his oil pressure light came on. His is down on top speed and seems to be using some oil. I suspect his will not be making 100k, at least not running very well when it does. In spite of it though, the bike has never had a parts failure and actually runs not so different than my 2011 except for the aforementioned being down on top speed which could be as simple as something like a dirty air filter.

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my 1992 Japanese 4 banger car engine still uses essentially no oil, and its at 170,000 miles; why do you think that a lightly worked DL650 engine would be so much worse?

I have only found the American-made older generation engines use oil.
How old? I had a 1973 Mercury Montego that had a 351 Cleveland, almost 200,000 miles on it when I sold it (stupid me) and used not a drop of oil. Of course, everyone's mileage varies...:beatnik:

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Yeah, they seem to last

I did quite a bit of research before buying a 2011 DL650, with a special eye towards longevity, and yeah, these engines seem to last a good long time, especially if normal maintenance is done. As with any mass-produced anything, it's somewhat up to chance, you might get one with various parts at the "wrong" end of the tolerance spectrum, but on the whole, these bikes seem to last quite well.

I figure I'll run out of steam before the bike does...

(I had a 1955 Ford F350 pickup with a 223 straight six, with who knows how many actual miles on it; it did not use a drop of oil, ever, right up until the time my friend drove it into a horse on the road at night... didn't use oil then, either, but had to park it after that. Best rig I've ever owned... really miss that one.)

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