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post #1 of 19 Old 11-02-2013, 09:29 PM Thread Starter
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Question newbie: kelly bluebook vs. reality

Hi, I'm a newbie, just looking for my first bike. V-Stroms look really sweet and a friend pointed me to these forums. I'm excited to buy something. I've been looking on craigslist for v-stroms since I decided it's the bike for me. I see several for sale. They are all significantly higher than the online kelly blue book dealer price for that year. My question is, is this reasonable or are these guys trying to cheat me? For example, I see a 2005 DL650 for $4700. Looks like a nice bike, what do I know? I look on Kelly and it says $3440 in excellent condition when purchasing from a dealer. He's not alone in asking such a high price. I see it here on these forums and elsewhere. My question is, am I expected to counteroffer super low and end up near blue book, or is kelly smoking crack, or what? I don't want to be a cheapskate and also don't want to get cheated here.
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Wealthy, if you is wealthy, don't worry your head about price.
I got my 04 a few years back, really clean example. The guy advertised for more than blue book and when I countered with the blue book value, he said OO-TAY! and I got the bike.
You've done the homework, time to try the shopping. Good luck.
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If your not in a hurry Jan. thru. Mar. you'll get the best price.
Look where it snows the prices go down there in the winter.
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Pick that one up $40 less than book and a year newer!
If you need help let me know.

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A bike will bring what a bike will bring. Some of them will bring over book because of a specific area and demand, some won't bring book. At best its a guide. If you look at NADA you will see different numbers.
Buying a bike is like anything else, a seller tries to get everything he thinks its worth and a buyer tries to get it for as little as he can. If you don't like the price make what you think is a reasonable offer. Worst that happens is he says no.
When I sell a bike I look at what they seem to be going for in my area, the book and come up with a price. I price it slightly high so people can make an offer because people just don't seem happy if they can't bargain you down a little. Since I don't need to sell anything I just blow the low ballers off.
The people I've sold bikes to end up paying about top dollar for the model because mine are always very clean and usually very low mile and they end up paying about 50% of the value of the things I've done to it, otherwise they can go somewhere else and buy somebody elses bike.

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supply and demand

if he same bike is on sale at much the same price for too long, its overprice for the demand at that point in time. There is not much demand for used bikes, especially geezer bikes like the DL650/1000 series

I dropped my price to 3,000 for a 2007 Wee in very good condition, 25,000 miles, in October 2013, Oakland, CA.
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KBB seems low for Cali but high for places with winter

If you have money just keep camping on craigslist (searchtempest), cycle trader and eventually there will be an OK deal to jump on
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if he same bike is on sale at much the same price for too long, its overprice for the demand at that point in time. There is not much demand for used bikes, especially geezer bikes like the DL650/1000 series

I dropped my price to 3,000 for a 2007 Wee in very good condition, 25,000 miles, in October 2013, Oakland, CA.
Maybe where you are, here the 650 sells pretty well used. The 1000 is a slower seller. Your bike would be underpriced here.

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Buying a bike is like anything else, a seller tries to get everything he thinks its worth and a buyer tries to get it for as little as he can.
+1. These threads always amuse me. There's nothing Strom-specific about understanding how negotiation works (and why it sometimes doesn't).

And I say that as a guy who has always overpaid because he gets excited and forgets that he's in a negotiation. :beatnik:
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+1. These threads always amuse me. There's nothing Strom-specific about understanding how negotiation works (and why it sometimes doesn't).

And I say that as a guy who has always overpaid because he gets excited and forgets that he's in a negotiation. :beatnik:
That's pretty much my philosophy too. Buy high and sell low. I have heard its more profitable the other way around but I seem to have trouble getting there.

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