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post #1 of 25 Old 10-24-2013, 11:37 AM Thread Starter
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Cruiser guy looking at Vs

I've been riding mostly cruisers since 1999. I've liked them for their relatively comfortable riding position. The back and leg positions of the cruiser is comfortable but the seat position is not so great. There is too much weight on the tailbone. Before that I had standard type bikes like a Kaw LTD550 and Zephyr 750. I miss the lightweight flickable bikes. I also have some ATV's and find the upright seating they have is very comfortable to me. I never seem to have the seat and back discomfort issues when riding an ATV that I do on a bike. I do have issues with bikes where you lean forward onto the grips. I don't like weight on my wrists and my back starts to hurt when leaned forward. Even a bike as standard as a 90s Honda Nighthawk 750 has more lean than I like. I'm in my late 40s.

I want a bike that I'm comfortable riding for several hundred miles in a day. With my Vulcan 1500 the seats just aren't that comfortable. The bike I've had that was all day comfortable was a Yamaha Royal Star Venture. But I don't want that large of a bike again. I've read in several places that the V-Stroms are very comfortable bikes. I may take it offroad some but it will mostly be used onroad. How is it two up with a larger passenger? Does a 650 have enough power for two up?

How accomodating are most Suzuki dealers with test rides? My closest dealer does not allow test rides.
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post #2 of 25 Old 10-24-2013, 11:47 AM
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I started on a Vulcan 500 then moved to a Vulcan 900 and eventually got myself the big daddy Vulcan 2000. I can say with no regrets that I traded the V2K in for a 2013 Strom 650 and I love it! I used to get home from day rides with a sore back, sore hips, and completely exhausted. Now when I get home after a full day I feel refreshed. The upright seating and the foot position mean I can stand once in a while if I am starting to feel cramped at all. Also once engine guards are added then highway pegs can be bolted to that.

I'm having so much more fun riding a bike that handles better than any big v Twin. The best part is bugs and dirt look good on a Strom so you will reduce your polishing time.

As far as test rides they might allow it on a used model.
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post #3 of 25 Old 10-24-2013, 03:49 PM
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I have a suzuki M109R cruiser and I know what you mean aboud sitting on the tail bone position of these types of bikes. I have gotten to where I can only go about 1.5 hr on my 109 before I'm done.
Unfortunately my tail bone was still suffering on the stock Vee seat so I got a Russel Day Long and problem solved. The upright position in combo with the RDL is perfect for me.
Everyone has their opinions regarding the Wee and two-up riding. I'll just tell you that the way I ride my Vee meets my two-up demands....barely. I couldn't imagine myself being happy on the Wee riding with my girl which is 95% of the time.

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post #4 of 25 Old 10-24-2013, 04:33 PM
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In my years of purchasing bikes I've found test rides of jap brands are dependent on the dealer knowing me and having a history. The HD dealer I visited actually had demo bikes ready to go, same with Victory. Haven't found a Suzuki dealer with demo bikes yet, not around here anyway.

Usually around here they allow no test rides unless the bike is used. I only know of one dealer who will let me try out new bikes, but I've bought from them a few times. If you show up with cash I bet you can work something out.

The Strom bikes are a standard riding position. They have a slight forward lean, many add risers and bar backs to get an upright riding position. Those are usually the cruiser or touring guys. I've been on my types of bikes and the Strom is very comfortable IMO. But, I like many different bikes, R1200RT's are very comfy and even a FJR1300 ain't bad IMO.

Its all very personal, but I've found a little lean helps greatly with back pain. Get the weight on you legs some and take a bit off the tail bone, that works best for me. Let those core muscles tighten up and work for you, let your legs cushion the bumps a bit. If you spread out the load, put weight on the pegs, lean into the wind an relax, long days are easy.

Sometimes letting your body adapt to the motorcycle for a while will surprise you.

But, you can turn a Strom into a cruiser position, just add highway pegs and a back rest with some rox risers and a tall bar. Add a russle seat for mor comfort. You can then sit straight up or lean back like a recliner. I've seen a few Stroms set up like that.
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post #5 of 25 Old 10-24-2013, 05:46 PM
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My 2012 Vee is the most comfortable bike I've ever owned. Plenty of leg room, and just the slightest amount of forward lean = the perfect combination for me. Many complain about the stock seat, but it works for me (I rode 1,050 miles in a bit under 19 hours in July).

For two-up riding, I would suggest the Vee. I guess it all has to do with your expectations and your need for speed. The Wee has better-sorted fuel injection.

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post #6 of 25 Old 10-24-2013, 06:17 PM
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If carrying a passenger is going to be standard fare , I recommend the 1000. The 650 will do whatever you ask of it , but the 1000 has more power and bigger forks/shocks for you to take advantage of. I'm a horse (6'4" , 300 geared up) and just don't like having to wring on the 650 to make it move. Yes , there are things (fueling , clutch) that can be sorted out reasonably , that make it a willing companion. I put my last 150-200,000 miles riding cruisers. The one thing that really took some getting used to was revving a twin instead of torquing it. All is well now.
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post #7 of 25 Old 10-24-2013, 10:24 PM
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I don't think I've had a bike yet that has been ergomically turnkey for long distance off the showroom floor. Most often long distance and/or two up riding requires some personal ergonomic modifications such as handle bars, seat, windscreen, pegs, grips, etc. on any new bike unless you are one of the few lucky ones or just plain young enough to bear through it all

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post #8 of 25 Old 10-24-2013, 10:44 PM
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I slightly disagree with sagebrush and agree with trapperdog.

No weight on my legs. My back is " straight" with a natural concave lower back and no weight on my tailbone. My arms are relaxed with low elbows. Yes, make any ergo adjustments that fit the bike to you.

Most find the 650 to be the better strom. More nimble. Ample power except maybe two-up uphill at highway speeds. And, some folks just like the litre power.

If you're shopping new, wait for the all-new 2014 DL1000. Many upgrades.

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post #9 of 25 Old 10-25-2013, 11:56 AM
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You can do a comparison here. It's not a good as a test drive, but will give you general idea of how the riding positions compare to what you have now.

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'14 Vee2
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post #10 of 25 Old 10-26-2013, 07:01 PM
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fixed my cruiser with Mustang seat. rode ok for me.
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