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post #1 of 18 Old 10-13-2013, 11:00 PM Thread Starter
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C14 to a Wee??

Coming off a Kawasaki Concours 14. Would I be disappointing on a Wee? Want something a bit lighter. Used mainly for commuting.
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post #2 of 18 Old 10-14-2013, 12:03 AM
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Coming off a Kawasaki Concours 14. Would I be disappointing on a Wee? Want something a bit lighter. Used mainly for commuting.
I have both. As far as I'm concerned YES. But what is it you really like about your C14? What do you not like about it? What is it you hope to gain with the Wee?
You said weight and you will definitely be going to a lighter bike. You should also gain some in fuel mileage. You may like the more upright seating position of the Wee.
The wee also is quite light steering which is nice in traffic and on very twisty roads.
The wee is cheaper to run, tires last longer, maintenance is less expensive.
What will you give up?
Power. A lot of power.
The wee is 'busy' at highway speeds. Yes, I know, it will run 80 all day. I'll tell you though it doesn't have a heck of a lot left at those speeds. As you know a C14 does have a lot left. A 650 (at least mine) was pretty much done at 105. This summer I had my C14 showing an indicated 135 in fifth, still pulling hard with 2k left to redline, which is where I backed off.
You'll be going from a shaft to a chain with the extra fidgeting that's involved in that.
If it matters you would give up a stronger electrical system, important if you like to run a lot of farkles.
I also like the Connie's luggage. You can get luggage for a Strom, lots of it, but your C14 already has it.
Like most things the best bet is to have both. If it was really a choice between the two for me the Strom would be gone this evening without a second thought. I'd miss its dirt road ability, nothing else of significance.
Here shortly someone will come along and present a case for the other way of thinking.

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Joe brings up some very good points, but I must say that you would miss much less power with the 1000 Strom "it is no slouch". I too had a C14 "2008" and although it is stupid fast and smooth, it was also hot and too heavy. I had a 2005 1000 Vee before I bought the C14, I had both bikes for 4 years. I loved them both for what they were, but for ME the Vstrom does much more. There are so many aftermarket accessories for these bikes it is ridiculous, you can make them practically whatever you want and the comfort you can achieve is marvelous. I guess it is all what you are wanting and expecting, for me less is more.

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Now that is certainly true. The 1000 puts out something like 90+ rwhp compared to the low to mid 60s of the Vstrom and given that the 1000 Vstrom is still quite a bit lighter than your C14 its going to feel a lot more lively than the 650 does. Plus the fact that big Vtwins sometimes feel even faster than they are just because of how they put out power.
I've not ridden a 1000 Vstrom, I had its cousin, the SV1000 which ran about 105 hp and it definitely was lively. I also have a 1050 Tiger which is definitely lively. My conjecture is that it would be a more satisfying substitute for the C14 than a 650 would be but I'd still keep the C14, I'm just very satisfied with that bike.
A lot depends on what this commute of yours is like and what other riding you do. I've never noticed a heat issue on my C14, which is a 2012. I rode a '08 and I definitely noticed heat around my lower legs that was unpleasant. But I'm in Oregon and maybe in another place it is or isn't an issue.

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Thanks for the advice. Yea, the power of the C14 is intoxicating, and I would miss it when I'm escaping DC drivers. I really like the new/coming 2014 V-Strom 1000, with the ABS, Traction control etc....I'll have to wait a year or two before I could get one though. So I think I'll get another C14 and wait to buy a Vstrom 1000. I'd like try the FJR, but I'd want a 2011 and newer, and the prices are still a bit high.
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The 2010 and current C14 is an amazing machine, and the many changes that Kawasaki made are very nice. I really like the new FJR, they did a very nice job with it. The 650 Vee will get you out of any trouble on the slab, and it accelerates plenty hard and fast "do not let the 650cc fool ya", there is a good reason why so many have been sold worldwide. I came too close dropping my C14 a few times, once was backing it up "needs reverse" and another was turning around in a drive that was on a slight incline. A simple drop on that bike will cost ya, a Strom......not so much "especially with guards". Ohio has allot of rough roads, and the Strom just eats them up, the C14 is just not made for that. I cruise at 80 MPH allot on my 1000, and it is not even breaking a sweat, it will actually go faster than the frame and geometry of the bike was designed for "can run about 140" and it has been electronically limited. Gotta have more than 1 bike, just too many itches that needs scratched. :mrgreen:

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Just off my C-14 and back to the Wee

I just sold my Connie, love the bike, super comfort, gobs of stupid power and ready for the trip. But, I ride the northern cal coastal hills, lots of twisties, lots of crappy roads and I found after selling my first Wee for the Connie, its Forte' is not the little goat trail. Mind you riding up to Seattle or the Grand Canyon, I was in heaven. But where I ride on a frequent basis and where i have the best time riding is the goat trail roads. So yesterday, out with the Connie and in with a new to me 2007 Wee. Feels good to be back!
Now, if only i can design a Power windscreen for the Wee!
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I just sold my Connie, love the bike, super comfort, gobs of stupid power and ready for the trip. But, I ride the northern cal coastal hills, lots of twisties, lots of crappy roads and I found after selling my first Wee for the Connie, its Forte' is not the little goat trail. Mind you riding up to Seattle or the Grand Canyon, I was in heaven. But where I ride on a frequent basis and where i have the best time riding is the goat trail roads. So yesterday, out with the Connie and in with a new to me 2007 Wee. Feels good to be back!
Now, if only i can design a Power windscreen for the Wee!
NO doubt the C14 is not a goat path bike, especially an unpaved goat path. And if that's what you really find yourself loving to do then its a good change.
And funny you should mention power windscreen, I have a friend who is a product engineer and we were discussing that very thing. I envision one adjustable for height and angle, something along the line of a powered Madstad. He thinks it wouldn't be real difficult to do and I think it could be adapted to several of these types of bikes. Frankly I think most people who buy Stroms are too cheap to pony up for it, but its the sort of thing until after you have one you can't really appreciate it.

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Thanks for the advice. Yea, the power of the C14 is intoxicating, and I would miss it when I'm escaping DC drivers. I really like the new/coming 2014 V-Strom 1000, with the ABS, Traction control etc....I'll have to wait a year or two before I could get one though. So I think I'll get another C14 and wait to buy a Vstrom 1000. I'd like try the FJR, but I'd want a 2011 and newer, and the prices are still a bit high.
I think that's a pretty good plan. No one really knows about the new 1000 of course but it looks like it should be a good bike. I have this thing about power and I'm wondering if its going to put out like I want it to but who knows, it may be a torque monster that still feels fast.

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I think that's a pretty good plan. No one really knows about the new 1000 of course but it looks like it should be a good bike. I have this thing about power and I'm wondering if its going to put out like I want it to but who knows, it may be a torque monster that still feels fast.
The current 1000 runs pretty darn good right now, and it likes to loft the front wheel too, I doubt it would bore you to tears if you rode one.

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