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post #1 of 8 Old 09-15-2013, 05:09 PM Thread Starter
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CBR929RR vs DL650 V-Strom - My Experience

In my search for the perfect bike, I did many Google searches along the lines of "CBR vs v-strom", "VFR vs v-strom", "v-strom vs cruiser", etc. While there are a lot of threads out there that were helpful (and ultimately led to my purchase of a used Wee), I decided to start a thread based on my experience, comparing my old 929 with my "new" V-Strom. I know, I know, not even close to being apples to apples, buy hey, this might be useful for something thinking of changing motorcycle types like i was - in this case an open class sport bike to an adventure bike.

I loved my 929. What a powerful, sharp handling motorcycle. 130 RWHP and 430 lbs wet made it wonderful (overkill) on any mountain twisty road. But there lies the rub - the overkill. The monster midrange is what I loved but I rarely revved it past 6-7K. Getting caught revving it to the 11.5K redline in any gear but first meant sure jail time. While hoisting the front wheel at freeway speeds with nothing but power is delightful, I have responsibilities: work, kids, etc. Binning the bike (and more importantly, myself) would be bad on so many levels.

Then there is the 2-up thing. I tried to get my wife on the back of the 929. It happened twice, which is amazing considering the experience of the first try. Awful. Uncomfortable. Nothing for her to hang on to - even I was too far away to reach. I tried wrapping a tie down strap around me to make a handle for her. It worked for acceleration, but braking still had both her and my weight through my arms. After 20 minutes we were both done.

So I sold the 929 and bought a used V-Strom two days later.

The Wee feels huge and wobbly. Where the front of the 929 ended right in front of you, the Wee feels like it has a Peterbilt hood. The suspension is soft but forgiving. And man is it ever comfortable.

The other day I went on a four hour ride to Squamish and back with a bunch of guys. When we got there, I was still fresh and could have continued on. The sport bike guys were sore. In the twisties I had no problem keeping up. And since we were trying to keep it "under 40 km/h above legal" (at which point our cops have the right to impound your vehicle for 48 hrs), the lack of power was a non-issue.

Compared to the 929, you don't have to try as hard (or at all) when riding the Wee. It is easy to ride slow. Easy to ride on the freeway. Like what has been said many times before, the bike sort of fades out of your mind, leaving you looking around at scenery and other motorists. Time seems to pass quickly.

So did I make the right decision?

YES. I now own a bike that is realistic. A bike that can basically do anything I care to do on a motorcycle.

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You nailed it. I've spent the last 10 or more years switching back and forth. Sport bike, sport tour, adv...Repeat.
What many riders are finding myself included this type bike is the best for real world riding.

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Nice thoughts...they are exactly mine after selling my vfr to get a wee. Simple to ride, its great to spend more time enjoying the ride, then thinking about my wrists, neck, and back. Great choice. I love riding my wee, it feels like an extension of me. And the mileage helps too as I commute on mine everyday. Enjoy!

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So this weekend I did a 500 mile long trip from Greater Vancouver to Osoyoos and back. Dialed it in at 130 km/h (80 mph) and cruised. I even did a little bit of trail riding on a leg between Keremeos and Oliver and was impressed and how my "new" Wee handled it all.

However, there is one GIANT issue that drove me mad. Buffeting/wind noise. Holy crap...I was exhausted in a couple of hours. I can't believe Suzuki engineers overlooked such a drastic mistake!

I am reading that MadStad brackets are the way to go. Seems like a cheap fix. What is their big advantage - the increased adjustability in height or the adjustability of the angle?

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Seems like a cheap fix. What is their big advantage - the increased adjustability in height or the adjustability of the angle?
Both. Sometimes even adding their windscreen makes it even better.

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On the madstadt I think its the laminar effect of the airflow under, up and over that makes it work so well. I have one and its easy to dial in.

As far as the wee...Ive only had about fifteen bikes. 70cc to 1200cc, sport, cruiser and dual sport.
Last week a few buddies zigzagged Northern California to the tune of about 1200 miles. Some slab some crappy roads but mostly awesome two lane roads back and forth from the coast to mountains. Got rain and a little snow in Lassen. The other bikes were 1200 RT BMWs, Harley's and an ST Honda. Good riders all of them but none and I mean none had as much fun as I. Wee had best range of all of them. Out handled all of them in the twisties. Hop a curb easy, pull of the road and not crap your pants, priceless. Its the best cheapest basic do all bike around. Sometimes you need to wind it up if your not paying attention to the gear our in, the brakes are just average but the rear locks up leaves a nice skid mark Lots of good info on this site too.
If I could only have one bike it would be the wee.
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I'm with you. I traded my VFR800X for the Vstrom. The VFR was in every way a smoother, more refined motorcycle, the handling, brakes, acceleration, etc. were all better than the strom. There's a reason the VFR won every bike of the year award ever given. However, I never gelled with it. Too much plastic, had to get too high in the rev range to make it move briskly, too much plastic, sucked on dirt roads (and where I live dirt roads are a way of life rather than a detour) plus it had too much plastic. I had it a year and put a thousand miles on it, and only had passengers a few times. Traded for the strom (bike previous to the VFR was a wee) and put over a thousand miles on it in the first few weeks. We get along better. My daughter is on the back at least twice a week, my son is on it regularly as well. The V has less HP total but scads more torque earlier, so I don't have to rev it to make it move. The seat is comfy, the windscreens (stock plus laminar lip and stock cut down) combined with the madstad bracket fix the buffeting, and it has no problem with dirt roads. Also less plastic.

Also, the VFR was gorgeous, albeit covered with plastic. I was constantly worried about dropping it, dinging it, scratching it. The V is ugly, and I don't care. I figure there's only about a 50%, maybe 60% chance that if I walked away and heard it fall over that I'd turn around and pick it up right away.

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I know what you mean about the front end, I still do a little wobble every once in a while after about 2500km lol.

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