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post #1 of 21 Old 09-06-2013, 10:42 AM Thread Starter
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Hi,i thought i'd post this here(might as well get laughed at here as well as SVRider:smilewinkgrin.
I'm going to buy a bike in England for the first time since 1979,but we have had a bike in the US for 15yrs. (yeah i'm old).
Now to the point,i want a V-TWIN the lighter the better,that can carry 2 people.
I thought the DL650 looked about the only choice,but i've never had a tall bike(i'm only 5'10"with short legs(29"inseam)passengers 5'2"same inseam)so I was worried about the height,so we went to the local dealer & i'm very on my tip toes which isn't confidence inspiring with a passenger(when stopped).
The sales guy suggested sitting on a Gladius,which fits me like a glove,but passenger ergos are very different than we're used to,narrower seat & very knees bent leg position,which is great for young people,but maybe not so great for Pensioners
Can't decide between getting the Strom & set about lowering,at least 2" in total(seat,suspension)i'm not really into lowering bikes as a practice,with our last 3 US bikes i've raised the suspension a bit(but they where low cruisers).
Or get the Gladius & hope for the best with sorting out the pillion comfort(no ready made solution)so custom seat & get inventive with the pass peg position.
The other big advantage of the Gladius(for me)is the 17" front wheel I didn't like the feel of a 19" front wheel on the cruiser.Can you fit a 17" Gladius wheel on a Strom?
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post #2 of 21 Old 09-06-2013, 05:28 PM
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Go for it

I have a 2012 650 (L2 or 'Glee'), which I think is slightly taller than the previous models. I'm a shorter person (and inseam is perhaps 31" and three quarters) and wanted more confidence footing the bike around. I fitted lowering links to bring the rear down by one and one eighth inches -- and also dropped the forks up through the triple-clamps a bit, in a bid to get the front/rear balance back towards what it was as stock.
I have ridden a stock L2 recently -- and see that now that I'm used to the bike and the height -- I could ride a stock height bike, if I took more care with the lay of the land. I like having more confidence whatever the slope or dip between the wheels -- so I'm leaving my lowering as it is.
For a shorter inseam -- the seat could have it's rubber blocks cut in half, height-wise -- for a little more height drop.
I'm certainly glad to have bought the L2 model -- reported to have better torque feel etc -- and have improved that further with a Staintune muffler and exhaust collector. That may not be important to some riders, and we get used to what we have anyway.
I reckon, with a lowering link like mine, and the seat blocks done -- you'd be comfortable on an L2 model. On an earlier model 650, probably you wouldn't need the seat blocks chopped.
It is a comfortable bike for a pillion too (so the pillion said).
Go for it -- and just make the necessary changes
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I too have issues with the height of the V-Strom having a 30.5" inseam. A few of the questions I asked myself about the bike was "Am I too short for this bike?", "Will I be able to handle the height and top weight of this bike?", Will I become uncomfortable when I have to stop or make an emergency stop?" I found a great deal on an new 2012 650 Adventure and bought it thinking that if I was too short then I could sell the bike and not take too much of a loss. I took express ways home from the dealer and within the first 30 miles of stop and go traffic I realized that I could handle this bike and really enjoy it. After a week or so of riding, I purchased a pair of Kouba Lowering Links but after riding another 1654 miles I don't think I'm going to put the lowering links on. I don't know if the suspension has "settled" or I've become accustomed to the height/top weight but I have no issues with the height and I can get my toes and balls of my feet on the ground but can get 1 foot fully planted when needed. Ride the bike for awhile and you can make adjustments with the height if needed.
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You do not need to flat foot a motorcycle, that notion and expectation would be ludicrous. I am 5'11 with a 31 inch inseam and the Strom fits me plenty well.

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I'm 5-11 short legs and tall torso, only 29½ inseam, when I first got my Vee, I put lowering links and raised the fork tubes iirc about 5/8" in front and 3/4" with the links average the 2, I lowered it 11/16" it got me from balancing on my tippy toes to where I could rest one foot flat while still touching easily with my toe on the other
I didn't mind it lower, it actually feels much lower than it really is

but then I started riding in winter and realized due to my studded tires bottoming out on the underside on my underseat storage compartment and grinding a hole in it, that most of the lowering that comes from the links is lessening the distance between the rear subframe and the swingarm and not actually lowering the bike that much, most of the lowering comes from moving the fork tubes

since, I've upgraded the suspension WP and raised it back up, but with my darkside experiment, running a shorter rear tire by about 2.5mm and took the rubber blocks off my seat pan, lowering the seat to the frame about ½"

After I got used to the weight of Vee since my last bike (SV650) the tallness was not so cumbersome

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Short guy reporting, 5'-4", 27" inseam, I rode it for a week before getting adjustable lowering links 1-1/4" and lowered triple tree 3/4" (want to go lower in front to match, just need to borrow that torque wrench again from a friend. I could just even out the back, I can tell the current suspension setup isn't ideal.


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post #7 of 21 Old 09-07-2013, 06:25 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the replies,i
l'll just have to pay my money & take my choice.
BigB,there's no such thing as need with a Motorbike,there's only want:mrgreen:.
Plus if my legs where as long as yours,there wouldn't be a thread,though there's always the 19' front wheell to start a thread about:wink5:
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You could get the Gladius and change the seat and get a foot-peg lowering kit. In my mind, this might be the better option because you are not touching the suspension. And you get the smaller wheel. If you were going to do the work yourself, this is also the easier option.

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Thanks,John.This is pretty much what i've decided to do.
The gladius feels great for me,which came as a surprise after the sit up & beg riding position i'm used to,it's just the passenger ergos that MIGHT be a problem,i'm going to test ride one this week
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You could get the Gladius and change the seat and get a foot-peg lowering kit. In my mind, this might be the better option because you are not touching the suspension. And you get the smaller wheel. If you were going to do the work yourself, this is also the easier option.
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Thanks,John.This is pretty much what i've decided to do.
The gladius feels great for me,which came as a surprise after the sit up & beg riding position i'm used to,it's just the passenger ergos that MIGHT be a problem,i'm going to test ride one this week
While you're at it, you might want to take a look at the new Yamaha triple. In the States, it's called the FZ 09 and appears to be a lot more bike for about the same as the Gladius. It's what I'd get at that pricepoint. But the seat might be worse.

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