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post #1 of 21 Old 07-02-2013, 11:00 PM Thread Starter
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Concours 1000 to 650 Strom

I'm considering getting a 650 with luggage and such and selling my 2001 Concours, so my first question is this.

Will it do at least 80-85mph for an hour and a half in 115-120F weather without eating oil, getting hot, or being needy? Doing that, what sort of MPG(US) should I expect?

Assuming stock gearing here, I don't really like to screw with things and leave them pretty factory much of the time.
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post #2 of 21 Old 07-02-2013, 11:12 PM
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I've cruised mine 2up 80-85 four an hour or longer with full gear in 90+temps with no issue. Couldn't tell you on the 100+temps for sure but doubt that you would have an problems at all.
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I have a 2002 Concours and I rarely ride it anymore since I purchased a Vee. The Wee will get much better mileage, (I only average in the low 40s on a good day on the Kaw). If you don't plan on packing double, I would get the wee. As far as riding in the heat, ANYTHING will beat the connie. The ZG has to be one of the HOTTEST bikes to ride when summer really heats up. Being water cooled, the wee shouldn't use any appreciable amounts of oil unless it has any other mechanical issues.

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I did two and a half days from Utah to The Greater Toronto Area a few years back on my 2006 DL650. I had around 115,000 miles on it at the time. Most of the riding was in the 85 to 90 mph range with temps over 90 and much of it close to 100. I did about 3,200 km iirc or about 2,000 miles. The bike was loaded up with tenting gear etc. It needed a top up of oil at the end of each day.

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The wee will do it but its a busy engine. Mine is turning about 5600 at a true 70 mph (by gps). FWIW, at 80-85 its not going to have much left power wise. Last year I ran some high speed runs on mine with factory luggage. It was pretty close to done at 105 (gps), it had tach left but not the power to pull it.

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Is the V-Strom 1000 geared any better for freeway cruising? Does seem like it'd be working really damn hard if its turning those kind of revs below 80mph, I'm turning 5100rpm at 85mph with a 10.5k redline in 6th gear right now.

I hadn't really thought about oil consumption on these bikes at speed until I started poking around these and the advrider forums, I didn't know that was a "thing", but then again I've always had 4cyls of 700+cc!
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I'm considering getting a 650 with luggage and such and selling my 2001 Concours, so my first question is this.

Will it do at least 80-85mph for an hour and a half in 115-120F weather without eating oil, getting hot, or being needy? Doing that, what sort of MPG(US) should I expect?

Assuming stock gearing here, I don't really like to screw with things and leave them pretty factory much of the time.
A lot depends on whether you mean 80-85 on the speedo, which is around 75mph in reality (for both bikes) or actual 80-85, which is going to show close to 95. If the former, the wee will be fine, I do that all the time. If the latter though, the bike will do it but you'll notice the oil consumption will go up a little and you'll have very little reserve power. MPG north of a real 80mph is going to be in the low 40s.
I came from a Connie to the Wee, and while I like the bike much better overall extended high speed blasts are one thing the Connie did a little better.
The Vee would be the better choice if that sort of riding is the bulk of what you do.

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Is the V-Strom 1000 geared any better for freeway cruising? Does seem like it'd be working really damn hard if its turning those kind of revs below 80mph, I'm turning 5100rpm at 85mph with a 10.5k redline in 6th gear right now.

I hadn't really thought about oil consumption on these bikes at speed until I started poking around these and the advrider forums, I didn't know that was a "thing", but then again I've always had 4cyls of 700+cc!
I would presume the 1000 strom is much more relaxed. I've not ridden one but I had its kissin' cousin, the SV1000. That bike had a very tall sixth gear and could have happily cruised at those speeds as long as you wanted to sit on it.
One other thing, when we were running at those higher sustained speeds the mileage dropped to around the low 40s, the only time I saw it go below 50mpg. To be fair I did about 3 top speed runs on that leg, of about 2 miles each, the rest of the time we were running around a true 80 (not the bs speedometer 80 subtract 10% for speedo error)

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Is the V-Strom 1000 geared any better for freeway cruising? Does seem like it'd be working really damn hard if its turning those kind of revs below 80mph, I'm turning 5100rpm at 85mph with a 10.5k redline in 6th gear right now.

I hadn't really thought about oil consumption on these bikes at speed until I started poking around these and the advrider forums, I didn't know that was a "thing", but then again I've always had 4cyls of 700+cc!
Some feel the DL1000 is geared a bit too tall for day to day riding. Shortening the gearing a bit makes that bike come alive. Others make the DL650 gearing a bit taller (I did on my 2006 but strangely don't feel compelled to do so on the 2012.) Realize this is a SIMPLE thing to do. Not a lot harder than doing an oil change.

With respect to your original question both the DL650 and DL1000 are very comfy doing 85 to 90 mph all day in hot weather. The oil consumption is a very minor issue at best.

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Being something of a power fiend. I'd a lot rather gear a more powerful bike down than I would gear a marginally powered bike up.

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