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Reading through this thread, our motorcycling backgrounds can be vastly different. I did only incidental off roading on my ZX11; from the pavement across the grass or two track to my tent. Coming from a big sportbike or bagger the DL650 is amazing on gravel, even with 80/20 tires. But coming from a "real bikes have tubes" background, ADV bikes are too heavy and ponderous in a sandy creekbed. And our standards and expectations have evolved over the years.
Beats walkn', I guess
Beats walkn', I guess