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I must be doing something wrong. All ear buds I've tried including Sony's and custom ear plugs from Wally World all fall out when either putting on or removing my full face Shoei 1000. The custom jobs are the best but they tend to fall out when removing the helmet. Just got a Zumo and would like to have some wired ear buds so I can listen to stereo music and knock down some of the wind noise. Is there a trick to putting on and removing the helmet to keep these suckers in? Any recommendations on wired earbuds? I do have a head rag that helps with putting on the helmet but doesn't help with removal.

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One of the probs is that a properly fitting helmet knocks them out as you put on the helmet.. I realize... however, have you tried the loops you can buy that loop over your ears and connect to the earbuds? I use them while running with my Ipod earbuds and they work great (for that). you can get nice ones for about $8 that are soft silicon. Might work on the bike with helmet... I'll try them and report.
 
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Barry,

Try the Shure E2C ear buds. They block ~20db of noise and sound great. Plus the cord from each earbud goes around the back of yourr ear and exits down the back of your neck. This helps keep them in place.
 

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Barry,

Try the Shure E2C ear buds. They block ~20db of noise and sound great. Plus the cord from each earbud goes around the back of yourr ear and exits down the back of your neck. This helps keep them in place.
I've got those. They may work great for some people, but I've tried all nine sets of earpieces and none keep the 'phones secure. The right one falls out within 10 minutes leaving it sitting at the opening of my ear, but kind of held in place by the helmet.

Looking for something else.
 

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I've also got the shure e2's (or e3's I cant remember) and they work pretty well in a full face helmet. If none of the plugs are fitting you, for another $75 you can have a audiologist make you custom plugs that work with them, and double as earplugs. I love mine.
 
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Rainier and Shep, are you guys using full face helmets?
I had a modular helmet, a 3/4 helmet, and a full face helmet. Mine do work out from time to time, but I attribute this to moving my jaw i.e. screaming at asshat motorists, drinking from a camel bak, etc. Bose just introduced a set similar to the etymotics.
 

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+2 for the Shures. I've got the E2C's. My wife has a set, not sure which. never had thm work out, and a great company to deal with if you ever need warranty help.
 

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Weird... I have the E4C's and it's hard for me to keep them in my ears, even when just sitting in front of a computer at work. Plus, I find that the thick cord transmits every little tap on it, amplifying the noise. Quite annoying. Great sound, just perhaps not a good fit for my ears.
 

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+1 on the Etymotic ER6i, I've never had trouble getting the helmet on or off and they sound great.

It sounds like you may not be inserting them far enough. You'll definitely have better luck with something like the Etymotics or the Shures -- the type with rubber flanges that fit into the ear canal (as opposed to the type that just sit at the entrance, like those that come with the iPod). They should fit in your ear like foam earplugs, far enough to make a good seal.
 

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Easy Fix

I have tried all sort of wired earplug. I wear an HJC modular helmet and have an Arai. I wear Sony earplugs ($60) from Best Buy, which have lasted over 4 years now.

I never have problems with my earplugs and helmet, and also glasses, WHY?

Because I use a helmet Sliks. I place the earplugs in, put the Sliks on, then I put the helmet on. When I put the helmet on I spread it by using the straps. NO PROBLEMS.
 

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Try this:

I use Sony earbuds for just music, or Plantronics earbuds with a tiny mic for my iPhone. In both cases, I've had better luck keeping them in if I route the cord from each bud up and around the back my ears instead of letting them hang straight down. It also helps to pull the helmet straps out as you're slipping the helmet on. Don't know if pulling the straps will help on a true full-face helmet, but my modular helmet flexes just enough to keep from pulling the buds out.
 

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Custom molded earplugs with built in speakers are the cat's ass. I've had a set for 10 years and wouldn't leave on a trip without them. The best part is that they are rebuildable, so if you should pulll out a wire, etc. you just send in your molded plugs and they do the rest.

The last time (2nd time in 10 years) I sent them to Precision Labs.
(800) 327-4792

Try: The Earplug Company at: http://www.earplugco.com/

Tell Bob that Pinkman sent you. He'll treat you right and is a good guy.

You may have to go to a hearing specialist to get the molds made, but that is a one-time deal.
 

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Etymotic ER6I's have yet to be pulled out of my ears when either putting on or taking off my helmet. Plus they sound superb:)
Bingo. have 'em and love 'em.
 

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My RF1000 pulls out every ear bud I've tried. I finally got a set from Radio Shack that I use with these extensions.

http://www.headsets.com/headset/Plantronics-Versatip-Tube-and-Earplug-for-Starset/

The ear buds have a foam ear plug type end that fits over a thin plastic tube. Pull off that short tube and put these extensions on and it actually works pretty well.

The extensions allow the ear buds to hang below the helmet.
 

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Ear phones

If you are lucky enough Etymotic Research er6is will fit your ear canal, if they do not fit the only real option is custom ear molds. You can purchase er6's on line from 85.00 to 140.00. I have had 2 sets, they quit working and when I called I was told they could not be repaired ? That was when I did the research and had a set of Precision labs Challengers made. They are great ! I liked them so much that I am now a dealer for them. If you want a set call me at 918-446-2245 Kieth Tulsa Truck Center, Inc.

The only problem is I will have to send you a do it yourself mold kit, the custom ear molds are only as good as the impressions. You might want to have a pro do the impressions if you do not feel like doing them yourself.

We also sell Autocom, mix it, amplirider, centech, wiring harneses, Marsee tank bags, wolfman equipment, road gear, jump starts for bikes, powerlett products.........etc.....:rolleyes:
 

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Roll your own!

Supposed to be a frugal bunch, right? Roll your own earpiece.

I used to ride 99% of the time with earplugs, the foam type. I bought a box of Howard Leight. When I started to listen to music when riding, I started with Shure's E2c and now have a no name from Costco that was on special.

The earplugs never fall out of your ears, so why not try them on your earbuds? Buy a leather hole punch, cut an earplug in two for size, punch a hole about half the diameter of the earplug, convince the earplug onto the earbud, and Bob's your uncle.

Day long comfortable, very nice sound isolation, doesn't fall out, and won't make your ears sore after 10-12 hours of wearing them. That is of course if your ears can handle regular foam earplugs.

KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid.
 

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Here's a trick I learned from a headphone message board that I really like.

Buy a pair of JVC Marshmallows at BB, CC, etc..
Also get a package of the Shure E2C Foam replacement pads. Make sure to get the E2C pads, the other's won't fit.

Remove and discard the plastic ear pad that comes on the JVC's. Using an Xacto knife remove the rubber sleeve from the sound tube. Carefully cut and remove the paper filter from the end of the sound tube with the tip of the xacto blade. Take some old foam padding from used earbuds and quarter this taking one of the resulting pieces and inserting into the sound tube of the JVC's. Install the Shure foams onto the JVC - compress, wear and enjoy.

I was very doubtful of this myself but figured I'd give it try for a "disposable" pair of earphones when I'm traveling. Like others on that board, I was surprised at how good it sounded as a result.... particularly for ~$30 total and 20 minutes of tinkering. Some claim they sound as good or better than the entry level Shure's (which isn't highly regarded on that board) and they definitely stay in place better than earbuds.
 

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Take some old foam padding from used earbuds and quarter this taking one of the resulting pieces and inserting into the sound tube of the JVC's. Install the Shure foams onto the JVC - compress, wear and enjoy.
Old foam padding from used earbuds? Quarter it? Probably being dense but I'm not sure what you mean. Couldn't I just put the Shure foams directly onto the naked JVC's? Are the Shure foams more comfortable and secure over the JVC rubber foams? I'm intigued. This might be a good backup solution for my expensive ones that I've ordered.

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Old foam padding from used earbuds? Quarter it? Probably being dense but I'm not sure what you mean. Couldn't I just put the Shure foams directly onto the naked JVC's? Are the Shure foams more comfortable and secure over the JVC rubber foams? I'm intigued. This might be a good backup solution for my expensive ones that I've ordered.
The old foam pad from earbuds like this:

get stuffed down the sound tubes to help attenuate the high frequencies from being too harsh. Some have said they like it better without it. Experiment to determine your own preference. But you'll need to cut it into smaller pieces to stuff into the sound tube. 1/4 is about right.

The Shure foamies look like this

and go on top of the sound tubes replacing this piece
that came stock on the JVC's and you've removed. Be sure to remove the sleeve from the sound tube too - this is actually the "hardest" part of the whole process.

Here's a good shot of the process before applying the Shure foamies


This shot also shows the sound tube after the paper filter has been removed and before the old earbud pad piece is inserted.


Yes, the end result is much more secure as the Shure foam pads will compress and expand in place much better than the slippery "plasticized' stock units. I haven't had them fall out yet. The package of Shure pads come with 10 pair so depending on how often you replace them, the package will last a good long time.
 
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