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I joined this site a few months ago because i wanted information on Vstroms. A new member starts a thread wanting information about Vstroms. Next post is some guy telling the new member how good their GS is or the Ktm is gods chariot. I figure i was smart enough to make it here, I can probably make it to a BMW site as well. In a way it makes a person feel inferior because they know what they can afford, but some one who wants to feel good about his purchase is here belittling your dreams. For Gods sake STAY IN YOUR LANE BRO.
 

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Tenns, I have a '15 650 and I'm happy with it. It does what I need and expect. Good mileage and will get me into dangerous territory faster than Jack the bear.
 

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I am sorry you had that experience, it is uncalled for! Sadly there are those who love to chit on others parades and push what they personally feel. I think they do this stuff just to get attention!

I have owned bikes since 1964..I started at an young age! I owned a bike shop (off road brands from Europe and Japan) and have competed (and did quite well I must say) at moto-cross, hare scrambles, and even some trials and flat track just for the hell of it! (Why not!). I have owned and ridden more motor cycles than I can count, everything from a little Hodaka Ace 100 up to a BMW K1200GT with a lot of stuff in between. I am not bragging, many have done the same, but I do want to make a point: There are many of us who have owned a pile of motorcycles and now have found the DL650 suits us well. I worked hard all my life and now am in a situation where I can afford any motorcycle I might want. I sold off my high dollar BMW's and Triumph and have settled into my little Vstom 650. Why? Because it does exactly what I want it to do, haul me and my favorite gal around the back roads of Kentucky with out fuss or hassle. It doesn't break down nor require dealer servicing for hundreds of dollars a year. I can care for it myself, a job I enjoy putting around at. Its my second DL650 as I traded in my 2005 after twelve trouble free and enjoyable year.

I don't care what the latest snob appeal bike is. I don't care if someone wants a BMW or KTM or whatever...I don't. Its their money and their choice. I have been down that road and enjoyed those bikes too. They are great motorcycles if you don't blink at the price or the cost of service. But now its my Wee that has my heart as it is just the bike I need. As we always say; the perfect motorcycle is the one you are riding right now! Yes, there are "better" bikes out there if you can define what "better" really is I suppose. My Wees have been great bikes and have served me so well since 2005. I really love my current one, a 2017, as its a step up from my original 2005 model in many ways; lighter, more powerful, handles better, great dash that allows me to adjust the traction control and other settings all with my left thumb. Its so much fun! Multi level traction control, ABS, gear indicator, lots of info on the dash and you can change it with your left thumb. They gave this bike a lot for the money. Yes a KTM or BMW can have more flash, but you will pay two or three times more for it than a Vstrom.

I'll keep my Wee....we are bonded....
 

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"For Gods sake STAY IN YOUR LANE BRO."

That's actually very funny. I can appreciate the feeling though. But when you are new to a forum it may take a while to get used to the culture of the site rather than expect everyone to configure to your norm.
An acquaintance started a site for our local mountain road and one of the commuters that use a portion of it for their daily run basically told him to bug off when he posted a comment contrary to what she wanted. Very funny to some of us and he has the power as Admin to simply pull the plug on her.

I've had BMW's and friends had all the exotic stuff too. The Suzuki suits my riding needs and other comments are eminently ignore-able.
Don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things.
 

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STAY IN YOUR LANE BRO
LOL, I like that too. I kinda get what you're saying, had to think about it a minute, but yeah, on bikes and equipment opinions or questions, it does happen. My wife and I adhere to a budget, and pay cash, or don't make the purchase on most anything. With that our garage has had a few bikes parked in it the last 15 years, notice a trend ? Set your budget, set your sights, and glean the info you can from this site, it is full of it. Great people with lots of knowledge.


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Suzuki Vstrom 1000 first gen
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Suzuki 1000 V2 (best so far !!!)
 

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Some people just like to argue. A forum gives them a place to do it without getting punched in the nose. Don't feed the trolls. They will tire and go look for another place to get their jollies. Hopefully sooner than later. And the more people speak up about it instead of just not coming back here the sooner it will change. So good on you!
 

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This is an internet forum thing that you're just going to have to get accustomed to. It happens on every motorcycle forum I've ever been on. There'll always be someone more than willing to tell you that you made a dumb choice; there's a member on the Super Tenere forum who joined apparently just to complain non-stop about the Super Tenere.

You're fortunate on this site though, because the number of members who are more than willing to help far outnumber the "big personalities" that just like to act contrarian. I have noticed, since forum guru Greywolf passed on, that some members are starting to lean into the whole ADV Rider "Jo Mamma" thing and want to delve into name calling and ad hominem attacks, but it's rare enough behavior that it still stands out (and still gets curbed by the moderators).

There's always the risk, when you post your thoughts on line, that you're going to receive feedback you don't want to hear, off-topic or not. Once you put it out there, you really can't control how people respond to it. It's just like threshing wheat; you keep what you can use, and discard the chaff. If it gets particularly obnoxious, you can go to the user CP and put whoever the offending member is on "ignore", so you don't have to see their posts.
 

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And notice the little triangle with exclamation point inside it at the lower left corner of the post. If you hover your cursor over it a flag pops up that says report post. That will get the moderator or administrators attention. Not sure which.

Like RCinNC said, this site is not as bad as some, but it has definitely changed. The worst site I have ever been on was the ST1300 site. Nothing but trolls, a-wholes, and smart asses. I hate to see this site moving in that direction. Even a little bit.

I have given a lot of thought about the challenge faced by the owner of the site. They buy websites that are flourishing under the leadership of gifted people who have a certain kind of helping attitude and mission. When those leaders are gone someone has to fill the void. Things change and the sites head in a new direction. Some stay, some leave, the nature of site is different. i personally don't like the tolerance for rule violations, discussions of religion and politics, but some do.

Worse are the sites they start themselves without the benefit of one of those gifted leaders. They just don't seem to ever get off the ground or prosper. People come and go, but they just never get to the the stage of those started by those helpful caring dedicated types. It's a real challenge and I really have no idea how much thought VS has put into it. They may just appreciate people who work for free.
 

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I understand how you feel. I haven't had my Wee long but really wanted to do the front break swap. I followed a few threads and there was some guy asking what the difference felt like. He was told if he didn't know the swap wasn't for him. Really infuriated me to see someone asking for information shot down like that.
 

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I joined this site a few months ago because i wanted information on Vstroms. A new member starts a thread wanting information about Vstroms. Next post is some guy telling the new member how good their GS is or the Ktm is gods chariot. I figure i was smart enough to make it here, I can probably make it to a BMW site as well. In a way it makes a person feel inferior because they know what they can afford, but some one who wants to feel good about his purchase is here belittling your dreams. For Gods sake STAY IN YOUR LANE BRO.
Welcome to the forum, Tinsee.

Lots of good info here and good folks, just ignore those who are not.
 

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I joined this site a few months ago because i wanted information on Vstroms. A new member starts a thread wanting information about Vstroms. Next post is some guy telling the new member how good their GS is or the Ktm is gods chariot. I figure i was smart enough to make it here, I can probably make it to a BMW site as well. In a way it makes a person feel inferior because they know what they can afford, but some one who wants to feel good about his purchase is here belittling your dreams. For Gods sake STAY IN YOUR LANE BRO.
Well why don't you hit the reset button and start over. There are really not many a-.... here and it is rare for members to promote other brands over the beloved stroms, although not unheard off. Normally its the other way around, especially when it gets to heated exchanges about the GS.

That said, being new, why don't you introduce yourself and tell all why you choose the V2. Then once you have a few posts under your belt and read some of the more common threads its time to ask specific questions or report your findings about the V2. The more general your question the more useless the answers you will get, is my guess. Have a specific problem and you can bet a fair amount of money that you will get solid responses.

And there is certainly no reason to feel belittled to have chosen a V2. Its a smart choice, same as mine, and I could certainly afford any darn GS I wanted, but I don't. My bike is dirty and gets ridden, that's all.
 

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Back to the Vee/Wee...
Our bikes do what WE want. Not necessarily what the bike can do. And most of the gloater brand forums are about what the bikes can do. Like if you own one you can do that. Well, maybe the top 5% can...

We just ride. Here, there and everywhere. At our own level of growing competence. For our own enjoyment. On a machine so balanced, neutral, reliable and multi-purpose that most owners fall in love with it. And want to care for it themselves.

From my observation we gain immense satisfaction simply from that. And want others on the forum to do so also.

I am sincerely sorry you ran into a snub here. It is not reflective of the vast majority on this forum.
 

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ST1300 site URL? Don't remember. I quit the site after a a year or so of increasingly infrequent visits due to the general nature of posts and that was early last decade.

I jut looked for it and don't see it anymore. It looks like it may have evolved into something else or just folded. I found soem the principles are now on an FJR site. Low member count.
 

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I switch bikes a lot! So naturally, I switch Forums often as well. Going into a new forum, will usually be met with high count posters who know everything, and are anxious to prove it! :grin2: And being the new kid will automatically make you the target of their arrogance. Even tho' I've ridden for 49 years, I'm usually treated as a total rookie. It's expected at this point. The older the age group, the worse it is. And yes, the ST1300 group certainly had it's share of f'sticks. Luckily, I only spent a few months on that one. A proctologist would have a heyday with some of those high timers. lol.... It's nice to get info on specific models, but putting up with the attitudes, and snarky comments, is a high price to pay. But the smart,experienced, AND helpful posters, make up for it.
 

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I joined this site a few months ago because i wanted information on Vstroms. A new member starts a thread wanting information about Vstroms. Next post is some guy telling the new member how good their GS is or the Ktm is gods chariot. I figure i was smart enough to make it here, I can probably make it to a BMW site as well. In a way it makes a person feel inferior because they know what they can afford, but some one who wants to feel good about his purchase is here belittling your dreams. For Gods sake STAY IN YOUR LANE BRO.
While I have no use at all for bullying, and telling someone they should have bought a "better", "bigger", or whatever bike is just that, I would hope the level of that found here won't dissuade you from being a contributing member. Because that is what it is all about.

However, I still have a different take I will offer as this has gone long enough to prove my suspicion. Nothing in the post says Tinseestromer owns a V Strom. Just wanted info. Pure Trolling. Still at one post... I beg forgiveness if I am wrong and Tinseestromer is welcome to heap the truth on me.

"Stay in your lane bro" is a direct copy of the recent insurance commercial.........
 

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While I have no use at all for bullying, and telling someone they should have bought a "better", "bigger", or whatever bike is just that, I would hope the level of that found here won't dissuade you from being a contributing member. Because that is what it is all about.

However, I still have a different take I will offer as this has gone long enough to prove my suspicion. Nothing in the post says Tinseestromer owns a V Strom. Just wanted info. Pure Trolling. Still at one post... I beg forgiveness if I am wrong and Tinseestromer is welcome to heap the truth on me.

"Stay in your lane bro" is a direct copy of the recent insurance commercial.........
So, by your reasoning, you need to buy the bike before you ask questions about the bike?

Must be a BMW thing.
 
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