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I'm a HUGE Garmin fan. I've had several models, and love their software, usability, and function. Unfortunately, my Streetpilot 2610 is having processing issues.... it randomly drops satellites, the touch screen won't calibrate, so typing on it is impossible (or I have to use the remote), and the map data seems to get corrupted mid-route at random... No idea why or how to correct it, and tech support won't help me because it's no longer supported.

So, it's time for a new one.

I've looked at the Zumo in the hopes of being able to use it on the bike and in the car, but I'm not that impressed (not to mention they're WAY overpriced IMHO). With the Nuvi series, none of them are waterproof, so using them on the bike unprotected is out too. I like the wide screen models, but I hate the fact that I can't customize any part of the displays...

I'm an information junkie, and like being able to see speed, elevation, current street name/address, compass heading, and upcoming turn/intersection all on the same screen as the map. On my current Streetpilot, I can do all that at the same time... Not so with any of the Nuvis... It's like they've been 'dumbed-down'... I HATE that!!

So, I've been looking at used StreetPilots.... Does anyone use the 27XX or 28XX-series Streetpilots here? How do you like them? Did they retain the functions I like on those, or did they disappear with the newer software?
 

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Not as fancy...

I'm still using 'old school' but I think that it does what you're talking about and they're fairly inexpensive and waterproof.

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Have you tried to get a reconditioned unit from GPS Central in Calgary ?
 

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The Zumo works well, but does nothing special really compared to the current regular Nuvis and is overpriced simply as a niche product.

The Garmin Nuvi 500 has both onroad and topology maps in a good size form factor thats motorcycle friendly and not just water resistant but completely submersible, and more importantly is way cheaper.



If I hadn't gotten such a tremendously awesome deal on a 800 series, thats what I'd be sporting. And even though the 8* series is automotive only, I have no problems using it on the motorcycle with the exception to it not being waterproof. That is remedied by just putting two of those ultra thin plastic baggies in your tank bag, and if it rains, you either take the Garmin off or just put the baggies over it and velcro tie wrap around the bottom. Its see through and works, if ghetto.

This is how I mounted mine:
 

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I'm a HUGE Garmin fan. I've had several models, and love their software, usability, and function. Unfortunately, my Streetpilot 2610 is having processing issues.... it randomly drops satellites, the touch screen won't calibrate, so typing on it is impossible (or I have to use the remote), and the map data seems to get corrupted mid-route at random... No idea why or how to correct it, and tech support won't help me because it's no longer supported.

So, it's time for a new one.

I've looked at the Zumo in the hopes of being able to use it on the bike and in the car, but I'm not that impressed (not to mention they're WAY overpriced IMHO). With the Nuvi series, none of them are waterproof, so using them on the bike unprotected is out too. I like the wide screen models, but I hate the fact that I can't customize any part of the displays...

I'm an information junkie, and like being able to see speed, elevation, current street name/address, compass heading, and upcoming turn/intersection all on the same screen as the map. On my current Streetpilot, I can do all that at the same time... Not so with any of the Nuvis... It's like they've been 'dumbed-down'... I HATE that!!

So, I've been looking at used StreetPilots.... Does anyone use the 27XX or 28XX-series Streetpilots here? How do you like them? Did they retain the functions I like on those, or did they disappear with the newer software?
I owned a 2610, 2720, and 2820! Now have the Zumo 550, a Nuvi 500, Nuvi 765T, eTrex Legend, and eTrex Summit personally and at work we also have other Nuvis.

The 500 is waterproof and has a removable battery. It does not have bluetooth support or an MP3 player or external earphone jack. The 765T has bluetooth, MP3 player support, and headphone jack and does have a partially customizable front screen and you can change it on the fly pretty easily to display direction of travel, elevation, or time of day if no route is selected. If a route is selected, you can select from ETA, DTD, ETD, direction of travel, elevation, or time of day. Any unit that has the "Where am I" feature will also display lat/long and elevation just by touching the screen. The 765T also supports multiple routes with multiple waypoints that can be reordered and shows speed limits.

In other words, other than having waterproof buttons, being waterproof, having a fuel gage, and coming with a map disk so you can lay out routes on your PC, the Nuvi 765T can do just about everything navigationally the Zumos do. And all the new units have the high sensitivity receiver. But you will have to buy one of the waterproof MC mounts.

Here are the form factors (displaying Fenway Park).

 

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I upgraded (or downgraded, depending on how you look at it) from a Nuvi 660 to a StreetPilot 2820. While the Nuvi was newer, smaller, cooler looking and more expensive (I got the 2820 on close out), it didn't have some key features that I wanted.

  • Track log - Nuvi didn't have that feature at all.
  • Load predetermined routes - Nuvi could not load a GPX file that someone else made.
  • Multiple waypoints - Nuvi could only do a 3 point route: Start at A go to C via B. The 2820 can do routes with unlimited waypoints.
  • I call the route - Nuvi will try to calculate the best route (shortest, fastest, etc...), but you can't force it to go the way you want. It will always try to do the route calculation for (or in spite of) you.
  • Waterproof/dust proof - The Nuvi isn't!
The only things I miss from the Nuvi are an internal battery and the ability to accept a SD memory card. Overall, the Nuvi is great for commuting in a car, but the 2820 is far better for motorcycle use.
 

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Nuvi 500/550 do record track and it can be saved off. Go to Tools, Map and set Trip Log from Hide to Show.

I don't have the 500 in front of me but the spec sheet says it supports multi-point routes. The 765T also supports such routes.

Most Nuvis can only do start, finish and one Via Point as you mention. If you look on the Garmin website under Specs, Nuvis that can only do this say "Auto sort multiple destinations (provides most direct route): No" If it says Yes it supports "multiple destinations' ie multiple waypoints.

You can create a custom route, but it doesn't come with the software to do so. To my knowledge no Nuvi can shut off auto-recalculate, which you can do on the StreetPilots.

There are some features the StreetPilot 2xxx series have that are no longer included. For example, near complete field customization of the front screen. A slider bar to "weight" highways versus more direct routes to calculate routes Think that went away in the 27xx series). On the flip side you must balance the lack of a high sensitivity receiver (sucks under trees or big buildings), lack of internal battery, screen that isn't very bright, and the large physical size. I'm glad they're still popular as I sold the 2820 for $300!
 

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I have a 2720 and like it. I also probably have relatively low expectations from a GPS (i.e. show me where to go).
 

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The 765T has bluetooth, MP3 player support, and headphone jack and does have a partially customizable front screen and you can change it on the fly pretty easily to display direction of travel, elevation, or time of day if no route is selected. If a route is selected, you can select from ETA, DTD, ETD, direction of travel, elevation, or time of day. Any unit that has the "Where am I" feature will also display lat/long and elevation just by touching the screen. The 765T also supports multiple routes with multiple waypoints that can be reordered and shows speed limits.
Correct me if I'm wrong, (they're all starting to blur together) but IIRC, on the 7XX I was playing with at Best Buy yesterday, I saw that I could select the different displays for ETA, DTD, elevation, etc. but only one at a time in the lower left of the display, correct? That's one of the things I loved about my StreetPilot was that I could see all that info simultaneously... I don't think the Nuvi can do that, can it?

I really don't like how they 'dumbed-down' the interface for the Nuvi series... If they would have just slimmed down the StreetPilot series but retained all the features, I'd be all over that! It doesn't look like they did that though... :(
 

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Have you tried to get a reconditioned unit from GPS Central in Calgary ?
I have not... but I may have to check it out... I have several friends that live in Windsor that could take delivery and I have no problem ferrying it through customs in plain view on the dashboard. ;)
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, (they're all starting to blur together) but IIRC, on the 7XX I was playing with at Best Buy yesterday, I saw that I could select the different displays for ETA, DTD, elevation, etc. but only one at a time in the lower left of the display, correct? That's one of the things I loved about my StreetPilot was that I could see all that info simultaneously... I don't think the Nuvi can do that, can it?
Correct, lower right.

I really don't like how they 'dumbed-down' the interface for the Nuvi series... If they would have just slimmed down the StreetPilot series but retained all the features, I'd be all over that! It doesn't look like they did that though... :(
It's not really dumbed down: it's different, more modern. The customizable front screen isn't available, but all the other information that was nested under as many as five screens is much more accessible.

If you try the "Where Am I " feature, you have instant access to lat/long, altitude, closest address, and links to fuel. hospitals, and police stations. there is nothing like that in StreetPilot.

The touch screen interface is much "flatter" which is much faster and more convenient. Hit the lower left display window and you get trip data. Hit the lower right and you get the fields you mentioned. Hit the green bar at the top and it will show the route, step-by-step. Hit the "Show Map" and it will show you the whole route, the driving distance remaining (Waypoints show as crow-fly distances before selection) and driving time.
 

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Nuvi 500/550 do record track and it can be saved off. Go to Tools, Map and set Trip Log from Hide to Show...
Oops... I just noticed that I have a Nuvi 660, not the 550. I just corrected that in my first post. No track log or multi-point route capability on the 660.

Oh, I paid $295 for my brand new (not refurbished) StreetPilot 2820 back in April of this year, and it came with MapSource and the 2010 maps!
 

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Oops... I just noticed that I have a Nuvi 660, not the 550. I just corrected that in my first post. No track log or multi-point route capability on the 660.

Oh, I paid $295 for my brand new (not refurbished) StreetPilot 2820 back in April of this year, and it came with MapSource and the 2010 maps!
Where? If I could find a new one for that price, I'd be all over it post-haste!
 

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Try googling "refurbished Garmin" and work your way through the links. I picked up a refurbed 2720 this March for $109 at TigerGPS.com.
 

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Where? If I could find a new one for that price, I'd be all over it post-haste!
I got it off of eBay. Back then, they were available everywhere as Garmin had just discontinued them. I quick search shows me that new units now appear to be pretty rare and price well above what I paid. I guess I got lucky and got in on them when the market for the 2820 had bottomed out. Now I just need to get the XM antenna.
 

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I use a 2610, still works perfect.
 

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If weatherproof isn't a top priority for you, try and get a streetpilot off ebay, all have been, unfortunately discontinued. I've used a couple of nuvi's and they don't hold a candle to my streetpilot. When rain threatens I either slip a ziplock over the unit or stash it in my saddle bag. I've seen the SP-7200 on ebay for $400, it's pretty feature rich. The only things I've seen that it doesn't have is junction view, 3d buildings or bluetooth.
 

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If weatherproof isn't a top priority for you, try and get a streetpilot off ebay, all have been, unfortunately discontinued. I've used a couple of nuvi's and thttp://www.stromtrooper.com/usercp.phphey don't hold a candle to my streetpilot. When rain threatens I either slip a ziplock over the unit or stash it in my saddle bag. I've seen the SP-7200 on ebay for $400, it's pretty feature rich. The only things I've seen that it doesn't have is junction view, 3d buildings or bluetooth.
What model Nuvi? Not that anyone is using an RV GPS on a motorcycle......
 
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