what year did suzuki fix the loose magnet problem ?

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Moemichael

Discussion Starter · 9 mo ago (Edited)

Greetings
Looking at buying a 2012 DL1000, had suzuki fixed the magnets coming unglued in the rotor by this year?
Had an 03 with this problem, dont care to mess with JB Weld again, also did the 650s have the problem ?
(sorry for the same post, thought I did something wrong on the 1st and it didn't post)

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HokiesRWee

· #2 · 9 mo ago

I don't know that pre-2014s Vees, were, ever, fixed, by Suzuki. Maybe they were, though.

I've had three 650s. Up to, total, of about 60k miles now, I guess. No issues. I don't recall reading about loose (stator) magnets, on 650s, either. And I spend a fair amount of time, here.

Good luck.

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oldjeep

· #3 · 9 mo ago

Never. Even the replacement parts have the same problem

realshelby

· #4 · 9 mo ago

2014 and newer DL 1000/1050 V Stroms have encapsulated magnets. Like the 650. They should never fail in same way as 2002-2013 DL 1000's. Rotors from second generation will not fit the first generation.
While you may not want to "mess" with the JB Weld fix, buying a new rotor should give many years of good service. Any older bike will have something that is going to need fixed....and 2012 models are now over 10 years old.

BackPacker

· #5 · 9 mo ago

Or get an '02 model with a four-magnet rotor. You won't have to fix the rotor, but there's plenty other stuff to keep you occupied.

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Solarguy

· #6 · 9 mo ago

BackPacker said:
Or get an '02 model with a four-magnet rotor. You won't have to fix the rotor, but there's plenty other stuff to keep you occupied.

Miles matter, but years matter more in my view. The rubber and gaskets get stiff and brittle, the electrical insulation gets stiff and brittle, the electrical connectors get corroded, etc etc etc. I prefer it if I don't have to maintain anything that more than 10-12 years old.

So I am in total agreement that the old 4 magnet rotors won't grenade, but there will be lots of other things that need regular tlc.

I restored a 1962 beetle back in the day, but every nut, bolt, connection and piece of wire had been repaired or replaced. It was a fun car and it never gave much trouble, But eventually I decided I needed more than 43 horsepower and interior heat would also be pretty nice.

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realshelby

· #7 · 9 mo ago

Well, there is a recent thread where an '02 with 4 magnet rotor had the same magnet coming loose problem!

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BackPacker

· #8 · 9 mo ago

I know, I've been following that thread out of interest since I have an '02. But I think the jury is still out on the cause of that one. And it's been the only report that I know of.

griz1953

· #9 · 9 mo ago

Solarguy said:
Miles matter, but years matter more in my view. The rubber and gaskets get stiff and brittle, the electrical insulation gets stiff and brittle, the electrical connectors get corroded, etc etc etc. I prefer it if I don't have to maintain anything that more than 10-12 years old.

So I am in total agreement that the old 4 magnet rotors won't grenade, but there will be lots of other things that need regular tlc.

I restored a 1962 beetle back in the day, but every nut, bolt, connection and piece of wire had been repaired or replaced. It was a fun car and it never gave much trouble, But eventually I decided I needed more than 43 horsepower and interior heat would also be pretty nice.

Hold your horses there LOL I have a 2002 with 4 magnet rotor that went out like a grenade !!! All but 1 of the magnets were ground into fine hamburger ! BUT I hear Im the only one with a 2002 it happened to...my luck...new rotor hurt my wallet !

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BackPacker

· #10 · 9 mo ago

Hmmm. Maybe I should start looking for some JB Weld anyway.

griz1953

· #11 · 9 mo ago

BackPacker said:
Hmmm. Maybe I should start looking for some JB Weld anyway.

A simple pull of the rotor cover and a gasket may ease any worries ! i think it would be worth it for piece of mind if its never been off

BackPacker

· #12 · 9 mo ago

It'll have to come off anyway at the next service. I had a burned stator (yes that happens to the '02 as well) so I got an old OEM stator off eBay that I put in. I also had my own stator rewound. Plan is to put the rewound stator in, keep the 2nd hand OEM as a spare.

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darthandy

· #13 · 8 mo ago

Getting back to the original problem, the 2012 DL 1000 is a first gen and will have the same problem. UNLESS - you replace the regulator / rectifier with a series type. I did an in depth study of this problem with the first gens (Did I mention I have an '06 DL1000?) and it seems the problem occurs due to an excessive build up of heat in the magneto which leads to the glue softening which allows the magnets to move around. If the magneto is OK (a quick multimeter check can tell you) then just change out the Reg/Rec for a series, make sure to keep the oil topped up and you should be good! Good luck!

realshelby

· #14 · 8 mo ago

Andy, there are plenty of cases where owners have had magnet issues even after upgrading regulator/rectifiers. Heat can be a factor in the problem, but it is far from the only cause. Age is as big of a factor for instance.

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darthandy

· #15 · 8 mo ago

realshelby said:
Andy, there are plenty of cases where owners have had magnet issues even after upgrading regulator/rectifiers. Heat can be a factor in the problem, but it is far from the only cause. Age is as big of a factor for instance.

Interesting! How would age become a problem? Would it be the factory adhesive "drying out" and allowing movement? Or would the magnets start to break apart from metal fatigue? I would like to know as I would really, really like to avoid having to repeat this job! So far, the only posts I have run across that mentioned having to repeat the job, did not mention having replaced the reg/rec so I assumed that it was another case of excessive heat.

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