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Hi all. I just bought a nice 2009 Wee. I love this bike, especially compared to the UJM's I used to ride 30 years ago. I'm not going to get farkle happy (yet) because it does everything I want pretty darn well.

My question to you experienced Wee owners is, what is the down side to lowering the Wee? I'm 5'8" and have a 28.5" inseam. I'm coping with the ride height but an extra inch would make this 58 year old more comfortable. However, I don't want to do anything that compromises the ride or handling performance.

So, should I lower the bike by 1" or not? And, yes, I'm considering having the seat modified (lower) by Spencer. Is this a better approach? Thanks very much in advance for your feedback.

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You lose ground clearance and cornering clearance but that's obvious. What isn't so obvious is the aerodynamics. The stock setup causes front end lift at speed. I had a hard time believing how much better the bike handles with the front end lowered 10-15mm with a stock rear, especially in windy or semi-truck passing gusty. Lowering the center of mass with typical lowering helps with that a bit but not so much. ABS Wees with fork braces (a must AFAIAC) only allow a 10mm front end lowering, 7mm for the Superbrace. With the rear lowered as much or more than the front, keep speeds reasonable.
 

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I believe that a friend with a lowered wee had trouble putting the bike on the center stand too. He raised his to stock.
 

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I was going to lower mine after going to a Gel seat, looking to get rid of the very sore backside....Was still not comfortable on longer rides, then sprang for a Sargent, pain is gone but I have not been able to go more than 100 miles at one time YET! I am now able to flat foot without lowering and so far love the new seat. I have a 29in inseam.
 

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I lowered our Wee (1 1/4 Kuba links, raised fork tubes) and ground clearance and lean angle is compromised but it works great for the girlfriend. It was absolutely necessary on hers to shorten the kickstand but only takes 30 minutes if you have a welder. As we live near Corbin we had a forward, lowered, and thinner (at front) seat made and I also installed some up and back handle bar risers. She has ridden many a 500-700 mile day with me without issues.
 

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Yer ballz will be "THAT" much closer to the ground........that's one drawback! It only counts if yer keepin' score!
 

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Yer ballz will be "THAT" much closer to the ground........that's one drawback!
It's the chain that worries me.

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Subtle changes are good. I used a 5/8" lowering link and then cut an additional 3/8" out of the four rectangular rubber blocks on the bottom of the saddle, for a total of 1" lowered. No problems with clearance and the stock sidestand seems fine. No problem getting it up (on the center stand). ;) Very happy with the result.
 

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The Wee in stock trim has literally half the ground clearance of a proper dirtbike. In fact motocross bikes have more than 13" ground clearance, more than double the Wee. So for off road be careful if you lower it further. Yes, a sturdy skidplate protects so that is a MUST for a lowered Wee going beyond a mild dirt road. Lower the fork 10-15mm and it will handle sharp as noted by Grey Wolf, but now you also have a minor reduction in front suspension travel. For mostly on road, lowering is great for riders 5'9" or under.
 

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Lower the fork 10-15mm and it will handle sharp as noted by Grey Wolf, but now you also have a minor reduction in front suspension travel.
That's not the case. Only ABS Wees with fork braces hit travel limits at around 10mm. Others can go as much as about 21mm with full travel.
 

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Hi all. I just bought a nice 2009 Wee. I love this bike, especially compared to the UJM's I used to ride 30 years ago. I'm not going to get farkle happy (yet) because it does everything I want pretty darn well.

My question to you experienced Wee owners is, what is the down side to lowering the Wee? I'm 5'8" and have a 28.5" inseam. [...]
The first downside is you get a lot of off-topic replies for asking.
The second downside is that lowering a bike is just as dumb as lowering a car (in both cases the handling suffers, but I'll admit that bikes suffer a bit less).

The third and real downside is that the bike won't be able to corner as well or be as stable at slow speeds. The wee is the only bike I've never scraped a peg with, and I really like that; it's also real easy to keep still at a stoplight with my feet on the pegs.
I'd also like to mention that my givi bags touch the ground before the peg does; a lowered bike is likely to make that problem worse because it lowers the rear more than the front (and you don't want to lose the rear wheel mid-corner).

My advice is give yourself some time on the bike; you'll get used to the height (it's only intimidating for the first few rides). Don't waste your money on cheap lowering links that will handicap your bike. If you need something lower, get your seat redone and buy boots with thicker soles.
 

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The third and real downside is that the bike won't be able to corner as well or be as stable at slow speeds.
Hmm... most folks seem to agree that lowering the front end a bit actually improves handling. If the front and rear ends are lowered by the same amount, and that amount does not cause interference when at full suspension compression, how is handling effected (other than ground clearance)?

The good news is that for less than $50 you can lower this bike. And for $0 you can raise it back up again, all with very little effort. Lower it to gain confidence. Raise it back up if and when you are ready to.
 

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Hmm... most folks seem to agree that lowering the front end a bit actually improves handling. If the front and rear ends are lowered by the same amount, and that amount does not cause interference when at full suspension compression, how is handling effected (other than ground clearance)?[...]
By lowering the bike, you lower the centre of gravity. The lower CG will require a greater lean angle because it won't move as much toward the inside. The greater lean angle required is not available due to the bike's lowering.

By lowering the CG, you also lessen the ability to balance the bike at very slow speeds.
 

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I'm 70 with a 28" inseam and am happy with my stock DL650A. Sort of what you get used to. Among the many bikes I've had were some tall Beemers.
 

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I raised my Vee. It increased the ground clearance and made the steering a bit quicker, but it is not 'twitchy' and still very stable. I wanted it higher simply because I like the feel of a tall bike.

I would predict that lowering your bike will decrease the ground clearance and slow the steering a bit, but not make it sluggish; probably make it more stable.

If you think you will like the bike lower then I say go for it.
 

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Everybody is going to have a different opinion, but having ridden my Wee lowered front and rear by 3/4" for 2 years, I would have to say no downside whatsoever. :thumbup:

Well except for getting it up onto the centre stand. :headbang:
 

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Unless you're a racer you probably wouldn't be aware of 3/4'' lowering as stated above. My first impression on first test riding a 650, it was in my view (then 38 continous years of riding numerous bikes) vague in steering. Purchased the bike, rode it home, lowered the front by dropping the forks 10mm ( later to 12mm) Lovely. For my 30" inseam I removed the four rubber buffer plus between seat and frame. Only 10mm but noticeable.
Now almost 70000kms the seat has squished down a lot. I touch the ground OK but the seat is thin and must be remade to suit me.
Try lowering it and see, no great harm done and you can always raise it as already mentioned above.
 

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I have a lowered wee, lowered the front by 12 mm to compensate. Similar inseam to you and no regrets on this yet. I get that ground clearance and COG are compromised, but I'm not what you would call an aggressive rider and the ability to get both feet on the ground helps with my confidence.

The only concern is if you go off pavement. It's not just the lower ground clearance, but you will run into challenges if you add a skid plate. I ran into this with a KTM I once owned - had to raise it again. At the recommendation of some fellow members here, I just bought a Hyde Racing skid plate. It sits closer to the engine and won't have that metal to pavement contact when cornering. But, then again, I only plan to do light off roading, like easy fire roads. I wouldn't lower the bike if you plan to get into more serious offroading.

Good luck!
 
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