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Both the Wee2 and Vee2 seem to have overall very positive reviews from magazines and owners alike. I'm wondering if I should just plan to get Vee2 despite the extra cost. My question for you is if money were not an object (it is) would you get a Wee2 over a Vee2 for any reason? What would the advantages of the Wee2 be?
 

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Regardless of price, I would take any generation of DL650 over the first generation DL1000.

However, while I haven't ridden the new V-Strom 1000, it is such a compelling bike that I will take a hard look at it when my DL650 needs to be replaced. (However if they make the same changes to the 650 package at that time I might very will stick with the 650.)

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I like the 500-750cc range in bikes. I don't have to be so careful with throttle application as with the bigger bikes. Mid size bikes have plenty of power for handling traffic situations, are less likely to inspire unlawful actions, are lighter, use less fuel (regular as opposed to premium in this case), have lower insurance rates and just feel better to me. Some of that is big pistons make big vibrations. I can afford the extra money but see no reason to spend extra for what I get.

If this is about you making up your mind, I have news for you. What anybody else thinks has nothing to do with what you want. What you want is what you want, not what has the best/most reasons why you should want one thing over another. You want a Vee2 and will always wish you got that if you got a 650 instead.
 

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Grey wolf is correct. Get what you want. They are both great.

Having said that. I got the 1000 thinking they were the same bike but one has more power. For my use, I wish I had gotten the 650. From what I've read, the 650 is much better sorted overall. I can go down the check list of common problems with the 1k that do not seem to be issues with the 650 and I have them all.
Poor fueling that needed computer assistance to correct? Had it. Loose throttle body boots causing terrifying surges in acceleration? Had it. Clutch chudder? Living with it. Stator/regulator issues? Tracking down the problem now. I think the general consensus is that the 650 is pretty good 2up, and gets better mpg, so that leaves wheelies. The 1000 does easier wheelies.
 

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I prefer the 650 because I feel a bit "closer" to the world around me than I do on a larger bike. It's really that simple.
 

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I am SO going to get filleted for this comment, but I'm going to do it anyway. Converse opinions are good, right?

I've got a Vee. These days, the gen 1 models if the 650 and 1000 are selling for around the same price point, I'd say. I've got mine running well.

At some point, I got to ride a new model KLR around the city. I also recently got to ride around a gen 1 Wee. You know what? The wee reminded me of the KLR. A faster, more revvy KLR. I know it's sacrilege to compare anything to a KLR, but there were characteristics of both that in the short time I rode them, reminded me of each other in feel and engine characteristics. It's not a bad thing, both were peachy rides.

I was looking for a 650 when I got my Vee, and even though its been a pain in the ass sometimes, it feels like much more machine than the aforementioned two, not just in the power department. I'm glad I made the choice I did when I was able to.

Back to what greywolf said:

Are the speeds it can run without effort even practical? Not really.

Do I wish I could get more than 150 miles from a tank (I'm an urban commuter)? Yep.

Do I wish my tires would last longer than 6K miles? Yep.

Do I wish my insurance cost much less than it does? Yep.

Is it AWESOME? Tee hee.

Should you get whatever stirs your soul, for whatever reason, regardless of what a bunch of well informed hooligans think? Yep. I did, and even though I'm selling my Vee for the aforementioned reasons (being poor sort of sucks!), I'm grateful I had the chance to own it.
When I'm in a better place in a while, I'll probably own another, or a Vee2.
 

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I like the 500-750cc range in bikes. I don't have to be so careful with throttle application as with the bigger bikes. Mid size bikes have plenty of power for handling traffic situations, are less likely to inspire unlawful actions, are lighter, use less fuel (regular as opposed to premium in this case), have lower insurance rates and just feel better to me. Some of that is big pistons make big vibrations. I can afford the extra money but see no reason to spend extra for what I get.

If this is about you making up your mind, I have news for you. What anybody else thinks has nothing to do with what you want. What you want is what you want, not what has the best/most reasons why you should want one thing over another. You want a Vee2 and will always wish you got that if you got a 650 instead.

Ditto. I've owned everything from a CB360 to a VTX1800C and have been riding since 1977. Lower displacement generally means a lighter and easier to ride bike. As soon as you realize you don't really need to go 0-60 in "OMG where did my shirt go?", you'll come to appreciate that less is actually more.
 

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I came from riding FZ1 and litre Fireblade - do i miss the power sometimes, yes but only 2 up and loaded on a highway overtaking action. If you do a lot of riding in that category, you should seriously consider the V2.

For anything else Glee is better - list of reasons been outlined by all other people.

But applying logical analysis to a question which to a lot people is a question about what the heart desires is futile. If you are in that category just go with what heart desires rather than torturing yourself with some logical justification. If you are strictly a logical person, then you would already have a conclusion.

BTW, not sure what the price difference in your nik of woods, but here the V2 cost a whopping 65-70% more than Glee! At the price of V2, i would look at bikes such as Yamaha Super Tenere which seem to be better value for money.
 

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I had the 2011 vstrom 650 for 3 years and 30000 miles. I just loved that bike. It could do just about anything. I almost shed tears when I traded it in for a 2014 vstrom 1000. After 7000 miles, I can honestly say the 1000 has surpassed all my expectations. For me the extra power is both exciting and needed for highway maneuvering. My 650 was buzzy at 80 mph, where the 1000 is smooth. In the end, you will never go wrong with the 650. The 1000 does have better brakes, traction control and gobs more power without being too powerful. It handles as well or better than my 650, and is pretty much the same weight within about 25 pounds. Is the 1000 worth 4k more? Only you can make that decision. Don't sweat it though, because there is no bad decision here.:thumbup:
 

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To be fair, the stock Glee suspension and brake is better than Wee, and the reduce weight makes it handle better. I only test rode the V, rather than owning it for a number of month - so not much to say except it felt similar to Glee in terms handling, which i suppose it is a good achievement by the V.
 

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There is no replacement for displacement ...
 

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Best advice anybody can give you is buy and ride what makes you smile.

Money doesn't grow on the trees in my backyard, but let's say that if, for example, I thought a BMW R12GS would make my riding time "better" (FSVO) I would have bought one without having to change my family's diet to rice and bean for the next 10 years. But, neither it nor the new DL1K would do that, so I have a Glee (and a couple of other bikes).

Actually, like many here, I prefer smaller and lighter bikes. They handle better, they are easier to maneuver at slow speeds and easier to take off-road (especially with my limited skills). I enjoy riding smaller bikes more.

Try to get a good test ride on both and see what works best for you. I know not all dealers will let you take a bike out, but I found that many will if they think you are a serious buyer.

Good luck,

Gustavo
 

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I bought a brand new 2012 dl1000 a few months ago at a blowout price.
If I had it to do again I would have bought the new dl650 with 0 % interest instead.
But I didn't , and I still love the dl1000, but I'm prepared to spend some
Money sorting it out.
If the new dl1000 is a well sorted bike, then the choice is easy, go dl1000.
With the 2012 dl1000 , I would be pissed as hell if I had paid full price.
But
I paid $7,500 out the door, I can upgrade my bike and still have it at a bargain price.
So I'm ok with my purchase.
Current year purchase.... DL1000 would be the one for me.
 

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Having just ridden a new DL1000 (and owning a 2007 DL1000), I'd say, if the choice were between a pre 2014 DL1000 and any year DL50, I'd probably get the DL650. As some others on here have said, while a really good bike, the previous years DL1000 had some issues that the 650 didn't.

Now, if the choice is between anything and the new 2014 DL1000 (and the cost is not a concern), there really is no choice. 2014 DL1000 all day long. Feels much lighter, easier to manage at low speed, and nimbler on the street than my '07. It really does feel and handle like a lighter bike, and the narrowness through the seat and tank area contributes to that feeling as well. And, at least on this one I rode, the fueling is light years better than mine (which is stock, and should probably be sorted out with a remap). It was smoooooth no matter the gear, and no matter the throttle position or load on the engine. Clutch feels easier to modulate in the friction zone, as compared to the very abrupt on/off characteristic of the clutch on my '07. And the brakes are FANTASTIC.
 
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