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Yet another 'which one thread' - sorry!

Well I have always been told never start with an apology, but I feel I must as I have seen so many similar threads on this site already. I still cant decide though.

Here is the story. I have had many different bikes over the years from Triumphs to Ducatis to Beemers, and now my latest is a smaller Yam XT660. I had to sell my R1150R when I moved, and bought an Xt660. I read all the sites and thought it would be the perfect adventure bike. Price was good, it rode nicely - I was desperate. 5 months later, and I think it has to go. Sure it is ok on the forest tracks, and gravel roads which I like, but it is not so great on the highway. Above 70, it struggles, and the vibes make your fingers numb, if you were able to ride long enough between fuel stops. The final straw is the engine surging at low speed.
I loved the power of my 1150 and the smooth ride it gave me, as well as the overall stability from its size. It was probably my favorite bike I have owned to date. The acceleration of my old triumph tt600, and later the dukes, was great, but I probably dont need that sort of track performance. I want to be able to enjoy it, and know that when I twist the throttle it will go out of the bend, and past the next car, and not shake me off, or sound like it is going to explode. I want to be able to comfortably spend 4-5 hours in the seat at highway speeds, and not feel like I have climbed up everest without oxygen.
I am an average size - 6', and 175lbs, and am about to test both in the next couple of days. I veer wildly from the V to the Wee and back again, in my decision making, and seem no closer to finality. I am initially put off by the Wee, as I am coming away from a 660. I know the extra cylinder is a whole new ball game, but does it really make that much difference. I like the fuel range though, and this is a big plus. The power and fun factor of the V is a draw, but the cost is a (probably the only) negative. I would be interested to hear what tank ranges people are generally expecting when touring.
I will use it for commuting daily (only 20mins) most of the year, and for longer rides and some touring in the better months. Although here in the nordic countries we are never far from winter weather - strong wind and rain, so that is also a consideration.
Well there it is - can you help. I promise I will make a decision soon and thank you after, as well as post pics.
Great site as well by the way!
 

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Vee versus Wee

A year ago I was where you are today. I came from a BMW 1150GS and was afraid that the Wee's smaller engine would make it a weak and boring ride. The last year has proven me wrong. Unless you're a speed addict (no pun intended) the Wee has more than enough power to take me (6'1 / 250 pounds) and luggage everywhere and effortless. And with a gas-consumption of less than 0,40 litres/10 km. It weighs less than the Vee which means it's easier to haul out of a ditch if you have to - and the engine runs as soft as butter in the sun. And it's got one advantage over the Vee - it looks right. There's something wrong with the rear end of the Vee - check my reply to your post in the Euro trooper forum.
 

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If you like the off road ability, go WEE. For the short commute, go WEE. Two up on occasion, go WEE. I own a 1000, And I totaly love the bike. From what I here in your post, the WEE is the right bike for you. Many BIG people have then with no complaint on power. With the price of fuel and insurance, go WEE.
(sorry to all the 1K owners, just sounds like a WEE is better for him) :mod2_scooter:
 

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Thanks

thanks for your quick replies. I think I am hearing what I wanted to. My main worry was that the Wee might feel a bit strained after the BMW, but from what everyone hear is saying - that shouldnt be a problem. I should get to test them tomorrow, so I will get a better idea then, but I am looking forward to it. I think the ABS on the 08 Wee is also a great plus.
 

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Just tested the V

So I just tested the V, and really liked it. Very stable and smooth, without too much buffet on my head with the screen low. The dealer has the price very close to the Wee now, and is prepared to knock a bit more off, so I am definitely leaning there now. Hopefully he will come back to me with a good offer tomorrow and I may well do the deal!
 

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If you loved the 1150 motor I'll bet you'll like the DL1000 over the DL650. To me the DL1K and 1150 motors are cousins, similar power output, ~ similar vibes, and if you are always going to fondly remember the 1150, you will probably be happiest on the 1K. The 1K definitely reminded me of an 1150.

That said the DL650 would run circles around that 660 on the highway. But it would never scratch that 1150 itch.

Good luck to you.
 

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Update!

Well after having set my heart on the V, when I eventually went back to the dealer, all 3 were sold in one day, and no more probably till next season! Dohhhhhhh! I have had to put a break on it, but now the weather is really nice again, I am itching for a new bike. In my impatience today I went and tested a 07 Triumph Tiger. Wow, what a great bike, although I think I said the same after the Vee! Now the dilemma - Tiger ready to sell or wait/go further away for a Vee. The cost is the most obvious factor, but what else? So please talk me out of the Tiger!
 

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I checked out a Tiger awhile back, great looking bike but I really wish it had a flush with the seat large rack like the stroms do. I know you can get a raised stand for luggage but having the standard strom rack level with the seat actually adds extra room for a passenger to use if needed, also a great place to mount a pass backrest :). Soft luggage sits right over where the pass seat area is, so two up is nearly impossible with soft bags. The pass portion of the seat is also smaller than the stroms.

That rack design was one of the main reasons I purchased my strom.


BTW, Finding a wee these days is like trying to find a Prius at your local Toyota dealership.

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Iam looking to upgrade from my 95 Katana 600F T a V Strom. Dont know which one to chose. DL1000K7 are selling for cheap but I heard 09 are coming in the next month or so, (650 only?). Haven't heard about 1000 thoughs. Is it worth the wait for the 09's or take the deal now?
 

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The Wee is all you need. Motorcycle choice is best done getting what you want rather than what you need though. The Wee is more economical and refined. The Vee is more raw power. Read the threads dedicated to each bike to get an idea of what goes on with them.
 
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Buy a Wee. A Vee rider wouldn't deliberate openly in a forum, he would go buy it, and then ride it. Wee riders seem to need a considerable amount of handholding prior to, and long after the sale. You seem (judging by your posts) to be in the latter catagory. ;)
 

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...I've always maintained that if you have to ask, a Wee is better for you. :thumbsup:
There is truth to that statement, no doubt about it.
I'm a Wee owner that maybe should have bought a Vee. I do miss the power. I like the 2 pipes in the rear.
Most days the Wee is a great bike, but I go through phases where I'll get bored with it for a while and not ride (like the last 2 weeks), and then I'll get back on and enjoy it again for a while. I don't know if it would be the same with any other bike... heck, I might even get bored with a Hayabusa, for all I know. I think what I really need is 2 completely different bikes- 1 for my practical side, and the other for my inner power monster. Given that kind of thinking, if I had the choice to make again, I probably would have made the same choice (Wee). The Wee is THE BEST commuter/all arounder made, probably ever. I think the Vee is less balanced overall, harder to ride (you don't even have to think about the Wee), more maintenance, and it doesn't have enough power or sharp enough handling to satisy me in the long run like a 2nd sportier and more powerful bike would. So, here I am with a Wee, and I will likely keep it for the commute and light touring (where it excels like no other bike) and get something that lights my fire a little later down the road.
Does that help you?
 
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There is truth to that statement, no doubt about it.
I'm a Wee owner that maybe should have bought a Vee. I do miss the power. I like the 2 pipes in the rear.
Most days the Wee is a great bike, but I go through phases where I'll get bored with it for a while and not ride (like the last 2 weeks), and then I'll get back on and enjoy it again for a while. I don't know if it would be the same with any other bike... heck, I might even get bored with a Hayabusa, for all I know. I think what I really need is 2 completely different bikes- 1 for my practical side, and the other for my inner power monster. Given that kind of thinking, if I had the choice to make again, I probably would have made the same choice (Wee). The Wee is THE BEST commuter/all arounder made, probably ever. I think the Vee is less balanced overall, harder to ride (you don't even have to think about the Wee), more maintenance, and it doesn't have enough power or sharp enough handling to satisy me in the long run like a 2nd sportier and more powerful bike would. So, here I am with a Wee, and I will likely keep it for the commute and light touring (where it excels like no other bike) and get something that lights my fire a little later down the road.
Does that help you?
You should have bought Buckeye's Vee, then you'd have had those two bikes! :devil_16:
 

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Buy a Wee. A Vee rider wouldn't deliberate openly in a forum, he would go buy it, and then ride it. Wee riders seem to need a considerable amount of handholding prior to, and long after the sale. You seem (judging by your posts) to be in the latter catagory. ;)

Well put... Last year I had an F650GS, there was no deliberation in my V purchase.
 
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