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Having ridden dirt bikes far longer than I have road bikes, I never grew attached to electronic gadgetry. My 2007 DL650 doesn't have cruise, or ABS, or traction control... except when I accidentally push the kickstand down with my heel while standing. :rolleyes: Yes, tubeless tires are a benefit on a bike used for long distance and multi-day rides. (There's no truck to limp back to, for a proper repair.)

I know it's an extra step you have to take when setting up your new bike, but the TuBliss system does a good job for an easy conversion. I've read the replies about tubeless compatible rims with a safety bead, but myself and others who have used TuBliss on their dirt bikes, haven't had problems with beads sealing on rims. The problem with the DE800, as far as TuBliss goes, is the 17" rear wheel. I don't think they make a TuBliss in that size; just 18", 19", and 21". If nothing else, TuBliss would be a good solution for a Tenere 700, which runs 21/18 rims.

As someone who likes gravel roads, farm lanes, forest roads, and Jeep roads, I have lived with the Wee's shortcomings of top-heavy weight, quick steering geometry, non-adjustable suspension, and low ground clearance. Even with Race Tech Gold Valves and proper spring rates, the suspension is soft. Coupled with reduced ground clearance below the skid plate, and it definitely hinders the bike's off-pavement capability.

I think the DE800 is a good step forward, especially in suspension, ground clearance, power, and hopefully weight distribution. As a rider who cares more about the adventure aspects of their V-Strom, a lack of cruise control is not a show stopper for me. If it weren't for the DE800 being introduced (and me waiting to hear some real riding impressions, i.e. Big Rock Moto), my leading choice up to this point has been the Tenere 700. I like it because it isn't burdened by all the extra electronics. Don't get me wrong, I still have orange blood in my veins from years riding 2-stroke KTM XC-Ws. I think the 890 is an awesome bike, but I don't need that much technology. I'm not opposed to it; I just don't need it. It's great for riders who want it.
 

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Yesterday afternoon I went to the Montreal Motorcycle Show and got to see and sit on the new 800DE as well as the new 1050 and 1050DE.
All the bike look great and I really liked the 800DE with it's size and specs.
When sitting on them it was a bit of a surprise that it felt the heaviest to balance, or should I say the weight felt top heavy. I can only imagine with a full tank. From the few YT reviews so far that seem to be the biggest point noted.
The 1050DE somehow felt more balanced and weight felt lower. The 650 of course was the lightest.
One thing i did realize, we talk about weight etc and proceed to add on crashbars, panniers etc.
For example my impression sitting on the 3Gen 650, this feels lighter than my 2gen 650 but mine has all sorts of farkles and this one was ''nude''.
The 800DE was getting a lot of interest and I think it'll be seller, at least here in Canada where so far no mention of the new Transalp has been made.
On a side note I was amazed at all the people at the show on a early Friday afternoon. Looks as though everyone missed going to the show these last few years.
 

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Looks like a nice bike. Lots of things that appeal to me. Not sure, how I’d like the spokes, and large-diameter front wheel, but, otherwise, looks good.

I am eager to read first reports.

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That was a very nice write-up by Suzuki Motorcycles on their new bike.
 

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If you get Cycle World's "Sunday's Best" they had a nice short write up on the 800 with Kevin Cameron doing a piece on the engine.
Worth taking a look at if you didn't see it.
 

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Wasn't really interested at first since this sits just above the cut off line in our local insurance scam. Anything over 750 gets dinged a few hundred extra per year. But when you look at the quoted MSRP for a new 650XA ($12,500 cdn) vs this new 800DE ($13,299) it's hard to see how the 650 continues. The tech and gear on this 800 is miles ahead. Don't really have a question, just very odd to me that Suzuki would keep both in the lineup and position the 800 so close to the 650 on price.
 

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Hard to say what will happen with the current 650. I agree that it will likely fade away as the new 800 seems to be a real step up. The DL's are old models and the world has moved on. There are just too many good choices out there to compete with. Triumph's Tiger 660 is less money than a Wee now and has many advantages. Yamaha has some wonderful machines. Then there are the Euro bikes if you want some serious power and performance. So many great choices. Suzuki fans will flock to this bike.
 

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I have two concerns with the DE.
1. I'm a shorter rider. Is the bike narrow around the center/seat like the 2017+ (Gen3?) 650s? Or is it wide? I can use a standard seat with the DL650 because of the narrow width of the seat so I didn't have to get a low seat which was fantastic.
2. I heard its top heavy. I had a 2016 Versys 650 before my V-Strom and the top heaviness made it really challenging (and tiring) to ride.. as much as I adored that bike. It was around the same weight as the 800DE. The DL650 I own is a LOT easier to handle and the weight feels very nicely distributed. Even at my height, it's very comfortable to use and ride.

In a video I watched, someone said when you're swinging the bike off the kick stand, it can feel like it wants to move harder to the opposite side and he had to catch himself a couple times. Which, being taller, wasn't too much issue for him apparently. But noted shorter riders may find difficulty with it.

I would like the opportunity to upgrade to the 800DE but if those two concerns are actually issues, then.. I may need to pass. I loved my Versys. Would absolutely get another one. But that top heaviness was so annoying to deal with. The DE is actually taller than the Versys; 33.1 vs 33.7 for the DE which isn't huge except when that small difference make a big difference for shorter riders.

Been slowly watching more videos on it. There's a dealership here that should be getting some in so hoping to swing in there and at least sit on it when they're released.
 

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@LunarFirefly having sat on all the different Vstrom models this past weekend I can confirm I found the new 800DE the most top heavy to lift of the side stand. It also felt a bit heavier to keep up right when stand still, one leg down, one leg up on the pegs. I didn't feel that the seat was that much hight than my 2013 650. Seat also narrower towards the front.
 
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