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If you have done at least one valve clearance check or had one done, please answer

  • I have a 650 and have gone through 3 or more valve clearance checks with no adjustments required

    Votes: 21 3.2%
  • I have a 650 and have gone through 2 valve clearance checks with no adjustments required

    Votes: 49 7.5%
  • I have a 650 and have gone through 1 valve clearance checks with no adjustments required

    Votes: 243 37.0%
  • I have a 650 and have needed a valve clearance adjustment at one check

    Votes: 128 19.5%
  • I have a 650 and have needed a valve clearance adjustment at more than one check

    Votes: 14 2.1%
  • I have a 1000 and have gone through 3 or more valve clearance checks with no adjustments required

    Votes: 6 0.9%
  • I have a 1000 and have gone through 2 valve clearance checks with no adjustments required

    Votes: 14 2.1%
  • I have a 1000 and have gone through 1 valve clearance checks with no adjustments required

    Votes: 56 8.5%
  • I have a 1000 and have needed a valve clearance adjustment at one check

    Votes: 131 20.0%
  • I have a 1000 and have needed a valve clearance adjustment at more than one check

    Votes: 14 2.1%

  • Total voters
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First and only check at 38,000 kms(23,560 miles). All valves were right in the middle of the adjustment range. Can't complain about that. Done at a dealer who will not be visited again due to other issues.
 

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If you don't trust the dealer, I'd think twice about believing the valve check was actually done. The usual experience is the valves are at the narrow end of the range. It is believed Suzuki either sets them in the middle when new and the initial bedding in moves them there or they are set at the tight end to keep them quiet. Also, variance in the range is typical. All the clearances in the middle sounds fishy to me.
 

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At about 14,000 m my 08 wee was within spec done by an idependant m/c mechanic that's been fixing bike since the 60's
 

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At about 14,000 m my 08 wee was within spec done by an idependant m/c mechanic that's been fixing bike since the 60's
That is the most popular answer by 650 owners. All clearances in the middle of the range is something else again.
 

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That is the most popular answer by 650 owners.
I'm counting on it being the case when I open up the Wee in the next couple of weeks. I don't have a good understanding of the cam chain tensioner, so if it's not in specs I'll be heading off to the dealer. :thumbdown:
 

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My Bike was very noisy and ran rough, I bought it with 2300 miles on it. I checked the valves at 7,500 and found 5 valves that were tight, but still within specs. I loosened them up by .001 and the noises went away and it's running much smoother. It has 20,000 on it now and haven't checked them again.
 

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If you don't trust the dealer, I'd think twice about believing the valve check was actually done. The usual experience is the valves are at the narrow end of the range. It is believed Suzuki either sets them in the middle when new and the initial bedding in moves them there or they are set at the tight end to keep them quiet. Also, variance in the range is typical. All the clearances in the middle sounds fishy to me.
Just when I'd finally got over the frustration of dealing with those clowns. Here's hoping he did more than just tear out the added wiring for farkles inside the fairing. Think I'll take a closer look for tool marks and such.
 

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Im on the the "no adjustments/checks ever" schedule. 78K miles now. I would be interested to know if anybody has ever found an adjustment way BELOW the tight side of spec. on a high mileage bike. To me, a check on the tight side of tolerance range is no reason to disturb anything. My 78 KZ 650 had one on the tight side, and it stayed there thru 3 checks, (30K) total. Someone posted a thought that the majority of Stroms have never been checked, I tend to agree. My 2c.
 

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Huh?

The dealer declined when I requested the first one. I did it myself a few months ago at about 28k. Still in spec, so it must have been in spec had the first one been done. I chose 2 with no adjustment needed.
The dealer declined? What kind of lame ass outfit is it? I do my own (motorcycle service tech - 30 yrs exp.)
 

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second check

Just checked them for a second time, at 25,386. I responded to the poll initially. This the result from 14,500:

Front
Left Right
Intake 0.005"->0.006" 0.006"->0.007"
Exhaust 0.010" 0.010"

Rear
Left Right
Intake 0.005"->0.006" 0.005"->0.006"
Exhaust 0.010" 0.009"->0.010"

and this is from today:

Front
Left Right
Intake 0.005"->0.006" 0.006""
Exhaust 0.009" 0.009"

Rear
Left Right
Intake 0.005"" 0.005""
Exhaust 0.009" 0.008"->0.009"

So things are still looking okay. A little tightening, but not much. I'd rather they were more toward the middle, but still within spec after 25k miles is great. I have about a 5k mile trip in a little less than a month, and I'm going to leave them as they are. I am thinking when 40k rolls around I will be making some adjustments, and will put everything to the looser end of the spec and that time.

Oh, I guess I should change my signature, but this is an '07 650 ABS.
 

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I checked "no adjustment required" at 15,000 miles because all clearances were within spec. But they were at or near the minimum. So I adjusted each one of them to exactly the maximum clearance, with the theory that I will never have to check or adjust them again.
 

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I did my 2007 today and three of the valves needed to be shimmed. One Exhaust and two intakes. Both of the intakes were at .0025 and the Exhaust was at .006. I shimmed the intakes to .0055 and the exhaust to .009. This was at 15,035 miles. I will do my wifes 06 next week.
 

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05 with 63,000 not valve check at all and still ticking em off.

It looks like 32 650s and 19 1000s so far. I'll bet the great majority of bikes out there haven't been checked yet.
Hey Buddy, i havenet visited with you in at least a year.....i have gotten a lot of good advice from you and thanks for it all. i have done alot to this bike, improvements, probably 6-7 torrences, 2 sets chain sprockets, one set bakes, lotsa oil/filters and she is still running fine. did the speedo hearler and speedometer face plate change so mileage and mph are reading correct. also did the "tre" which made the bike way more fun to ride !

question or comment for you tho is i have never checked the valves...at all....63,000 M
ILES not KM.... still seems to be running fine. i see your pole and wonder what your opinion on my bike is...I am going to chek the valves for clearances today....

what is the longest mileage you have seen with guys that do check valves and dont need to adjust. have you ever heard of anyone having a burned valve or anything really bad happening.

there is a lot of history floating around out there and you are doing a good job of trying to get your arms around it. I am very curious as to what the most recorded miles you or anybody has seen on one of these. this 05 is my second on, the 02 i had was in the 20k range when i updated to this one.

how amny miles on yorus now? gotta be uo there. hope this note finds you in good health and having fun, D'dog
 

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I only remember a couple of valve problems reported. I'm around 47,500 miles at this point. There have been a number of bikes with over 100,000 miles.
 

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got the rear valves checked

I only remember a couple of valve problems reported. I'm around 47,500 miles at this point. There have been a number of bikes with over 100,000 miles.
Ok, got the rears checked...remember they 63,000 miles and this is the first time valve check.
intakes = .004 and .006, ex = .014 and .008.

I read that JUST to check the fronts, I dont have to remove the radiator how in the heck do you do that? I cant get anywhere close enuff room to get in and get the valve cover off. the rad bolts are off but the shroud is in the way. what tricks are there to get room in there.

i have searched but found nothing that helps. Any ideas or any links that might help?
 

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It's interesting you have an exhaust valve that is too loose. They normally tighten up as they wear. I've always taken the radiator off to check.
 

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I read that JUST to check the fronts, I dont have to remove the radiator how in the heck do you do that?

i have searched but found nothing that helps. Any ideas or any links that might help?
Good luck with that I would just take it off. It is a great opportunity to get the antifreeze changed and also get to check that all of your your hose clamps are tight and in good shape.

The problem you may also face trying to fuss with a valve adjustment with the radiator in place is that you could do some damage to the radiator while trying to get the cover off.
 

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Like always, I am late to the party. I just checked my valves for the first time. My bike only has 47,000 miles on her but I checked them anyway:green_lol: Three of the four were .178 and one was .012. I was surprised to find the shims different sizes. Three of them 298 and one 302 (yes this was the tightest one). I replaced them all with 290s and she is running like a dream.:hurray:

Oh ya, did you guys know the sproket cushin should hold in the sprocket carrier? :confused: I thought it was supposed to fall out every time I removed the wheel.:thumbup:
 

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Valve adjustment AND cheap but good aircleaner DL1000

Like always, I am late to the party. I just checked my valves for the first time. My bike only has 47,000 miles on her but I checked them anyway:green_lol: Three of the four were .178 and one was .012. I was surprised to find the shims different sizes. Three of them 298 and one 302 (yes this was the tightest one). I replaced them all with 290s and she is running like a dream.:hurray:

Oh ya, did you guys know the sproket cushin should hold in the sprocket carrier? :confused: I thought it was supposed to fall out every time I removed the wheel.:thumbup:
Good to hear from you and being a rider with 47,000 miles....650 or 1000? the valve you checked...front or rear cylinder? 3 = .178...wow, would seem really noisie and one was .012, intake or exhaust?
What did the other 4 valves read?
I am not familiar with the cushion thing and just never thought about it. some dual sport and older bikes, the sprocket cushion drive does come out....is this not right for our tuff old Wart Hog Vstroms?
Any other tips for me and my 63,000 babie and do it all bike? mine is the 1000 and am not sure if i would get another 1000 or just get the Wee ?
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