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hey everyone, I am in the market for a new motorcycle and have been leaning strongly towards a v-strom 1000.

I'm in Canada and have noticed Suzuki dealers are quite a bit rarer than I remember growing up. I've been to a couple but none have any 2019's in stock and are trying to push the 2018 demos with bonus packages. this concerns me a bit, why wouldn't they carry at least one of the current model year? one said they're expecting them in the next few weeks but again, riding season is just starting, why be late to show?

so I went into my usual dealer (kawi/honda/yami), known the salesman for 30+ years and have bought several new motorcycles through him over the years. I was asking him about the V and at first he said they're a descent machine but as the conversation went on his tune started changing a bit. he said that Suzuki just doesnt have a big enough market share here and wasn't sure how much longer they will be staying in this market. he also said that he is very suspicious of any Suzuki trade in because the engines get iffy after about 40k km's.

I took this with a grain of salt because I'm sure he would prefer to make the sale himself but its planted the seed in my head. I've done some searches on the interwebs, youtube and looked around here. sure there are a few people with a few issues but nothing about the motors being short lived. actually I'd say the consensus is Suzuki builds a rather reliable motor.

so basically, is there anything I should be concerned about with the longevity of these engines, are they super high maintenance, do they have inherent issues that need to be dealt with to increase engine life, etc, etc...

I've owned a few suzuki's in the past and never had any issues but haven't owned one in twenty years or more. any advice or info would be greatly appreciated and I'm sure would set my mind at ease.
 

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Many members on here will atest to the Great engines in these bikes. Older 1000 models had some
issues. But have been taken care of in later models. You will find they are a long time runner.
With the proper maintanence .
 

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I bought myV for two reasons -- comfort and reliability.

Being retired and 70, I wanted a bike that will last me till I don't ride anymore. I've not read anything about a V having reliability problems.

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Your dealer friend put his competing dealer hat on LOL.

The Suzi twin is probably one of the most reliable engines available. The bike is considered one of the most reliable, and most importantly easy to work on yourself, especially with a forum like this with loads of knowledge.

You'll find several members that have put hundreds of thousands of KMs on their bikes.

Heck, if I get to 100K and the engines dies, I'll be happy. That'll be 10 years of riding for me :grin2:

But I suspect, with good maintenance on the rest of the bike, I'll easily get 200-300k out of the engine, if I can ride it enough to get there.
 

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I think you are "leaning" in a good direction. Review, after review, comparison test after comparison test, always speak of how well the Vstrom compares against their pricier competition. Just make sure you know that for the price of a Strom, you don't get a BMW. And you get a chain, not the shaft of a Super Tenere, for example.

And there is nothing "iffy" about these engines. If there were we would not have a member who racked up 400k miles (not kilometers) on a 1st Gen DL1000 with never an engine tear down.

For you I would pose a question, not an answer. Are you a handy bike mechanic. If you are, then the scarcity of Suzuki in your area shouldn't stop you. But if you are not, or would prefer not to be, then if I were you I would strongly consider doing business with the motorcycle dealer you know and trust. Nothing wrong with the Tenere, for example. A very well thought of bike around here. Just pricier.
Good luck, tell us how you do!
 

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My 2006 Dl650 has 202,400+ km / 125,700+ miles when i parked it in my hanger. It sat there for several years until a ech from work got it and got it running again. No engine issues ever.

My 2012 DL650 was turning great when I sold it. 139,500+ km / 86,700+ miles at that time. As far as I know the new owner is still riding it (he was turning it into an off-road bike.)

My 2015 DL1000 has 163,400+ km / 101,500+ miles. riding it every day.

RCACS had 271,000 km / 168,000 + miles and replaced his cam chain tensioner. As far as I know that was the first time he had bee nin the engine apart from valve checks.

Kith, has ridden over 400,000 miles on his 202 DL1000. It is pretty much worn out and still ridable and iirc he never had to do any engine work apart from routine.

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The main reason I got my Vee..it was for is reliability...I was on the market for everything that was around as an adventure bike around 900 to 1200 cc.

And speaking with dealers mechanics,and people who had vstrom....bang for the buck the best and on the long run very reliable and and maintenance is cheap.

That's why I got my 2018 Vee xt. I'm probably the first in Qc to got one...it wasn't even in SAAQ system...
 

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I've owned a few suzuki's in the past and never had any issues but haven't owned one in twenty years or more. any advice or info would be greatly appreciated and I'm sure would set my mind at ease.
Check out WERA688 posts for any issues he found (very, very few and those were minor). His DL1000 went 432,000 miles before he retired it. He didn't retire it because it was broke either.
 

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Would be nice to know where you are from (hint hint)

I got to 100000kms in three summers, engine still sounds hella weird (it's normal for the 'strom), internals are like new.
For the price, the warranty, the versatility, the ergonomics (also the seat, man, it's awesome!), the reliability... it's a hard bike to beat.

Took me a while before i made up my mind, but i plan to keep this one a long time.
 

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This --

My 2006 Dl650 has 202,400+ km / 125,700+ miles when i parked it in my hanger. It sat there for several years until a ech from work got it and got it running again. No engine issues ever.

My 2012 DL650 was turning great when I sold it. 139,500+ km / 86,700+ miles at that time. As far as I know the new owner is still riding it (he was turning it into an off-road bike.)

My 2015 DL1000 has 163,400+ km / 101,500+ miles. riding it every day.

RCACS had 271,000 km / 168,000 + miles and replaced his cam chain tensioner. As far as I know that was the first time he had bee nin the engine apart from valve checks.

Kith, has ridden over 400,000 miles on his 202 DL1000. It is pretty much worn out and still ridable and iirc he never had to do any engine work apart from routine.

..Tom
is why I chose the 'strom over some other options back when I was shopping.

Your dealer is blowing smoke. I'd be far more concerned about him than about the reliability of the Suzuki engines.
 

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wow, thanks for all the replies.

I'd like to say I'm a good mechanic but after spending the last 20 min trying to figure out how to add my location through the user cp..... I'm not sure I should be allowed outside on my own. my vehicles only see the inside of a dealership for warranty / recall work and only to a garage for work i can't or dont want to do at home ( AC, tires, etc).

I'm in Ontario, close to Toronto. I know Suzuki (cars anyway) were much more popular in la belle province but their motorcycles were very popular here.

I had a feeling he was talking more as a salesman than a friend but just wanted some reassurance. while this may not be my forever bike, I'm thinking it will be my for a long, long time bike.

girlfriend says I have to make some room in the garage before I can buy another bike, luckily they're calling for sun and 14 here today, time wash some bikes and make some decisions. which bike to sell...... or us it time to trade in the girlfriend 🤣
 

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There are a few Suzuki dealers in the GTA. I bought mine in Newmarket, but Snow City and Ready powersports have Vstroms in the showroom. Mind you Ready has a brand new 2013 650 they are asking $1000 more than I paid for my 2017 last year in Newmarket.
 

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Just be aware... the 1000 requires premium fuel whereas the 650 takes regular 87 octane.

I wanted to get a 1000 this year (I've ridden a 2005 650 since 2006) but the prospect of forking out extra $$ for premium gas at every fill-up was a deal-breaker for me.

- Martin
 

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hey tom, I get the distinct feeling we've talked before on a forum far, far away...... I'm about a 45 min drive west of Toronto.

I'm not too concerned about using premium, always have in my bikes whether they call for it or not since they brought out the ethonal. theres still a few stations here that don't have any in their premium.

newmarket isnt too far and I do have one about 25 min down the road, they just dont have any in stock. the next one was a half hour the other way but they dont have any new, seems odd that suzuki calls them dealers?? I would want the dealer to be somewhat close for parts or warranty. I have 3 or more kawi dealers, same for yami dealers in my town or just across the border, just caught me off guard.

off to wash another bike, this is gonna be tougher than I thought, think I might just have to sneak one off to the cottage while shes not looking....
 

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Twenty, I run premium in my '14 DL1K because that is what's called for in 2 versions: The decal on the left side of the instrument cluster says "Use Premium fuel...", while the owner's manual says "Requires premium fuel..." and at no time to use anything other than Premium. During a conversation with the regional Suzuki service rep at the Chicago bike show 2 years ago he volunteered--with no prompting or question by me-- that although Premium is recommended, there is no problem using regular.
The dealerships send their bikes out with regular, and those(car) dealerships that have on-site gas pumps( like the ones I worked at) always had regular, not Premium. The price difference between the 2 isnt enough to dissuade me from using what's recommended, and if I can't afford the recommended fuel I shouldnt even own a motorcycle in the 1st place.

As for reliability, I dont have enough miles on my Vstrom to judge it's reliability one way of another EXCEPT for 3 factors: 1) It starts immediately and with no driveabilty issues no matter how long it sits. 2) It runs the same way--excellent-- every single ride. Not so much as a sneeze, cough, or fart. Just smooth, steady power at any time. 3) Stuck in a 1.5 hour traffic jam in I-57 on the way back from Deals Gap, 105F degrees(or higher) inching along , ambient temp gauge reading 122F, and the fan never came on nor did the engine temp gauge go over it's normal 3-bar middle reading. Traffic opened up, no engine knock on acceleration, no flat spots, no nothing--just business as usual. I was mightily impressed. Still am.
 

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your salesman friend who you've known for 30+ years is just being a salesman.
the other possibility is he is uninformed.

I prefer to get my 'information' from motorcycle reviews by legitimate outfits/reviewers and forums. While I know some salespeople are sincere they are often uninformed and for me they are the last source of information I would rely on. I'm speaking generally here. I know there are some who are enthusiasts but its pretty easy to test their knowledge about a machine you are interested in if you have done a little research.
 

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The engine has been around for a long time. If there isn't a Suzuki dealer around the local shop has a mechanic that knows his way around it. Suzuki dealers are usually combined with Kawasaki and KTM out here. I have 3 dealers within a 100 Km here but when I lived in the Kootenays the closest was 250km away. The local Honda shop in Nelson did my first valve check. No problem as the tech does the valve checks on all the local Stroms and thinks they are a hell of a lot easier to work on than some other makes.
 

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Just be aware... the 1000 requires premium fuel whereas the 650 takes regular 87 octane.

I wanted to get a 1000 this year (I've ridden a 2005 650 since 2006) but the prospect of forking out extra $$ for premium gas at every fill-up was a deal-breaker for me.

- Martin
I rode over 50,000 km last year. I used 2871.955 liters of fuel.

If they all were Premium (they weren't) I would have paid $574.20 extra for the year (based on 20 cents extra per liter for Premium) My total for fuel in 2018 was $3,976.08 so really it's just a small part of riding. If I did the mileage most people did I would have probably only spent an extra $200 or less the year.

Now not all the gas that went into my DL1000 last year was Premium. There were places (Newfoundland and Labrador and South Western USA) where there simply wasn't premium so I ran regular. It runs fine on regular although I avoided high throttle settings at low RPM so as to minimize the risk of detonation.

..Tom
 
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