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Today I got on my V2 to leave for work and the battery didn't have enough juice to start it. The fuel pump primed and everything seemed normal, it just didn't have the juice. I own a Micro start XP-1 and thankfully never had to use it before. Today was the day I thought it would bail me out. I hooked up the jumper cables to the battery, plugged it in to the device, and same thing. Just dead. Shouldn't it crank right over once connected or does it need to sit there for a little and let it charge up? The XP-1 had full juice so that wasn't the issue. I did have a hard time getting the jumper cables to hook up to the battery terminals but they seemed to have contact so I'm pretty sure I can rule that out. Anyone use these before and if so, how do you use it? Seems pretty straightforward but then again it's new technology and it could be anything.
 

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Is the Micro-Start a LiFe battery ? might need to let it sit with the key on and lights drawing on the battery a bit to get it warmed up to get the battery up to full power
 

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Did it crank at all? I have seen a Micro Start jump an older DL1000 with no issues.

I doubt this relates to you but when my wiring harness screwed up it back in January (literally the day before I was gong to take in into the shop to get the work done) it wouldn't start either. No amount of Jumping with my Micro-Start, Boosting from a car, or bump starting would work. It simply didn't crank and wouldn't bump even though all the lights were on properly.

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Did it crank at all? I have seen a Micro Start jump an older DL1000 with no issues.



I doubt this relates to you but when my wiring harness screwed up it back in January (literally the day before I was gong to take in into the shop to get the work done) it wouldn't start either. No amount of Jumping with my Micro-Start, Boosting from a car, or bump starting would work. It simply didn't crank and wouldn't bump even though all the lights were on properly.



..Tom


I was taking it in for the recall 2 weeks ago but ended up going in to work n never getting it done. It doesn't crank at all and seems to have plenty of power. I never even considered to look at my voltmeter and see how many volts I had. I guess I was just shocked that this happened out of nowhere and also rushing around to get to work on time. When this happened to you was it the ground that is supposed to be relocated causing the issue? What else can I check without lifting the tank if all is fine with voltage?
 

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I was taking it in for the recall 2 weeks ago but ended up going in to work n never getting it done. It doesn't crank at all and seems to have plenty of power. I never even considered to look at my voltmeter and see how many volts I had. I guess I was just shocked that this happened out of nowhere and also rushing around to get to work on time. When this happened to you was it the ground that is supposed to be relocated causing the issue? What else can I check without lifting the tank if all is fine with voltage?
My dealer said all of the recalls applied to my bike. I thought by buying a 2015 I sidestepped the issues but it was not to be. I literally washed the bike, when to gas it so next morning would take to the shop but it didn't start again a the gas station (20 km/12 miles from home.)

I was just thinking did you check the obvious stuff like Clutch switch, kill switch, sidestand, etc? I have missed those things in the past enough times that checking them is etched in my mind.

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Will do all that tomorrow morning before work and let you know what it is. Thanks for all your help.
 

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The micro starts don't need to sit there, just hook it up and hitting the start button should get a result.

If your connections were good ? you have another problem.

Fitting Anderson plugs to both the bike and the micro starter is good insurance.

Please don't turn your back it when charging your micro battery they can be dangerous.
 

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Well I just got done pulling the bike apart and don't have any more time or patience to mess with it. I pulled the tank off looking for possible wires affected due to recall issues. Nothing found and I'm going to have to pay to get it towed to the dealer. Brand new bike with less than 6k. Good job Suzuki.
 

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Kickstand switch or emergency stop switch malfunction? I carry the XP1 and had to hit the boost button a couple of times and let it give some juice back to the battery before it finally cranked over on another battery before. Totally dead batteries won't just start right up... need to give it a few for it to start accepting the charge enough to crank.
 

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Did you check to make sure the battery terminal connections are tight? If they are even slightly loose they will supply enough current to run the electrics, but possibly not the starter. Wouldn't hurt to check that main ground wire connection just behind the front sprocket - can do that without removing anything. Did you check all the fuses?

If the kill switch is off, you won't hear the fuel pump priming.
 

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Kickstand switch or emergency stop switch malfunction? I carry the XP1 and had to hit the boost button a couple of times and let it give some juice back to the battery before it finally cranked over on another battery before. Totally dead batteries won't just start right up... need to give it a few for it to start accepting the charge enough to crank.


I checked the switches. That was what I was hoping for. The problem has to be due to the recall issue. Same thing happened with V-Tom. I have an XP-1 model as well and it brought my already charged battery up to 12.4 from 12.0 when I hooked it up. 12v is enough to start it alone. I left the XP-1 connected for 15-30 mins and then tried again. Everything works as it should, I just hear a click sound when I press the start button and no cranking. I have to get it towed to the dealer Tuesday. Found out Suzuki won't pay for the tow which is BS if it's affiliated with the recall issue.
 

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Did you check to make sure the battery terminal connections are tight? If they are even slightly loose they will supply enough current to run the electrics, but possibly not the starter. Wouldn't hurt to check that main ground wire connection just behind the front sprocket - can do that without removing anything. Did you check all the fuses?

If the kill switch is off, you won't hear the fuel pump priming.


Battery terminals are just fine. The main ground for the V2 is on the rear of the engine block. I checked it and its fine. I checked the ignition fuse and it's fine and I know it's not the main fuse or nothing would work. Fuel pump primes every time I hit the switch. Again, the bike does everything as it normally would, it just won't crank.
 

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Before you pay for a tow, did you try to clutch start it? Could save you a few bucks.
 
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I don't think you are going to "clutch start" a fuel injected bike. How are you going to get fuel pressure for the (electrically powered) fuel injection?
 

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I don't think you are going to "clutch start" a fuel injected bike. How are you going to get fuel pressure for the (electrically powered) fuel injection?
He said the fuel pump pressurized when the key was turned on, so that circuit is apparently working.
 

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He said the fuel pump pressurized when the key was turned on, so that circuit is apparently working.
That's what i was thinking too. Not getting power to the starter while having it everywhere else, you could maybe just push start it?

Didn't know your insurance would pay for the tow, though.
 

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That's what i was thinking too. Not getting power to the starter while having it everywhere else, you could maybe just push start it?



Didn't know your insurance would pay for the tow, though.


I believe I'm having the same issue V-Tom did due to the faulty ground wire or ignition coupler switch thing-a-majig. He didn't have any other option but to tow it. My bike is less than a year old and under warranty so I'm not gonna get worked up over it and let Suzuki do their job.
I have Rider insurance which is only available in a few states on the east coast. They have free towing up to 35 miles no matter what insurance package you choose. They will also bring you gas if you run out, but you pay for gas. I just hope it's a decent driver who owns a bike or at least knows how to properly strap one down. I leave for a 7 day, 2500+ mile trip next month. I need this bike to be in good shape.
 

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Battery terminals are just fine. The main ground for the V2 is on the rear of the engine block. I checked it and its fine. I checked the ignition fuse and it's fine and I know it's not the main fuse or nothing would work. Fuel pump primes every time I hit the switch. Again, the bike does everything as it normally would, it just won't crank.
Same thing happened on my DL650, turned out to be a faulty starter relay. Even though it clicked when trying to start it.
 
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