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I was installing my SW-Motech EVO SideCarriers on my 2012 tonight and ran into a problem. I relocated the turn signals fairly easily. I ordered the turnsignal extensions from Eastern Beaver so I didnt have to cut any wires. This is good in case I ever decide to go back to stock. I mounted the brackets on the passenger footrests and the bracket under the luggage rack and the bracket on the rear fender. The problem occurs when I went to mount the right carrier to the bike. I left all the bolts loose as per the directions, but it was a major struggle to get the brackets on the bike to line up with the quick releases on the side carrier itself. I cant figure out why this is so tough. I really had to squeeze it into place to get the quick releases to lock. Has anyone else had this problem? I am a little bummed out because I thought that the turn signal re-location was the difficult part. Any help or insight is appreciated.

Correction: The carriers themselves are not EVO. The official product name is SW-Motech Quick Lock SideCarrier.
 

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I did the install for this in another section that you may have seen. I had the same problem with it going on tight on the right side (thought it was just me). I didn't like it but didn't think it was that big of a deal. However it took a little more effort getting it off and I didn't like that. Hopefully they may come out with a little longer bracket (probably 1/4 inch would do it). Since I won't be changing them that often I guess I can live with it.
 

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I watched my racks being installed on my adv. and the tech didn't seem to have any problem. When removing my panniers and racks so I could sell them, (presently listed in the classified section) they came off with little effort. HB
 

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I watched my racks being installed on my adv. and the tech didn't seem to have any problem. When removing my panniers and racks so I could sell them, (presently listed in the classified section) they came off with little effort. HB
...but are the side case racks on the ADV model Wee (and we are talking about the new Wee right?) SW-motech EVO quick release racks or something Suzuki makes?
 

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I think the OEM adventure racks are slightly different as they dont require a turn signal relocation. If you look closely I think the rear bracket is also different.
 

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I did the install for this in another section that you may have seen. I had the same problem with it going on tight on the right side (thought it was just me). I didn't like it but didn't think it was that big of a deal. However it took a little more effort getting it off and I didn't like that. Hopefully they may come out with a little longer bracket (probably 1/4 inch would do it). Since I won't be changing them that often I guess I can live with it.
Sounds like the same problem. I went over to the thread on your install and I see a common trait. Looks like you installed the rear fender bracket through the predrilled license plate bracket holes. That is what I tried and the right side carrier was abnormally tight and difficult to lock. I re-read the directions and there is a line in the last section about re-drilling holes for the rear braket / licencse plate holder. So here is the plan. I have loosened all of the bolts so that the carriers are installed and just sort of hanging there. I removed the bolts from the rear bracket so that there is no tension on the bracket. When I get home I will align the my license plate and drill new holes for the rear bracket and license plate. That should alleviate any tension on the carriers and make them easy to put on and take off. I will re-post with the results.
 

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When I get home I will align the my license plate and drill new holes for the rear bracket and license plate. That should alleviate any tension on the carriers and make them easy to put on and take off. I will re-post with the results.
Looks like somebody is going to adapt and overcome. :thumbup: Looking forward to see how it works out Jarhead88. I'll probably parrot what you do.
 

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Where did you purchase your SW Motech EVO racks from? I assume Twisted Throttle but I was surprised they wanted 62.00 to ship the brackets to So. Cal.

I had the Trax boxes on my KLR and will be installing them on my 12 DL650 but noticed they didn't offer the quick locks (might have missed it) for the EVO's on the DL650. With the SW Motechs on the KLR I didn't care for their locks, they looked like it would only take a ave. screwdriver to bend the latch and remove them. What are your thoughts with the locks?
 

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My above post was in regards to the Trax panniers the came on my new "adv." ten days ago. I assume that these are different than the Evo bags. On my adv., the rear turn signals had a small adapter that moved each rear turn singal back about an inch. My panniers do have the quick locks and disconnect.
 

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Where did you purchase your SW Motech EVO racks from? I assume Twisted Throttle but I was surprised they wanted 62.00 to ship the brackets to So. Cal.

I had the Trax boxes on my KLR and will be installing them on my 12 DL650 but noticed they didn't offer the quick locks (might have missed it) for the EVO's on the DL650. With the SW Motechs on the KLR I didn't care for their locks, they looked like it would only take a ave. screwdriver to bend the latch and remove them. What are your thoughts with the locks?
I did purchase from twisted throttle. They do have the locks :

SW-MOTECH Keyed Locking Quick-Lock Fasteners (pair) - QLS.00.046.10100.B : TwistedThrottle.com

I think they work for all versions of the SW-Motech quick release carriers. The locks definitely can be defeated, but they will keep somebody with nothing more than a quarter from stealing the racks and luggage. In other words, they will keep the honest people honest. I am installing the TRAX boxes as well and I understand the desire to keep them from getting stolen.... they are pricey.
 

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Looks like somebody is going to adapt and overcome. :thumbup: Looking forward to see how it works out Jarhead88. I'll probably parrot what you do.
Yes Sir! Mission accomplished! I put everything together including the rear bracket. However, I put no bolts in the rear bracket and allowed it to align itself on the rear fender. I put one bolt in the standard license plate hole and mounted the rear bracket just to hold it in place (only left hole was uncovered). I then made sure I had everything lined up and that each side carrier could be put on and taken off easily. Then I tightened all the bolts around the footrests on both sides taking care to ensure that none of the brackets moved when I tightened them. I then reconfirmed that the racks could be easily mounted and unmounted.

It was at this point that I realized that I needed to mount the license plate but the OEM license plate bracket would not fit. I called twisted throttle and they told me that they typically just mount the license plate directly over the bracket. This worked like a charm! I used my license plate as a template and drilled a hole at the far left end and right ends of the slot in the mounting bracket. The bolts fit right through the license plate and mount the bracket securely to the fender. I was concerned about drilling the holes, but the way the bracket aligned to the fender, the holes were on the same line as the original license plate mount holes. The drill bit literally on turned two or three revolutions before it went through. This told me that that particular part of the fender was meant to be drilled for license plates (e.g., the fender is the same for all countries but the line where the plate mounts is meant to be drilled to fit any plate). I am still running a temp plate. As soon as I get my permanent plate I will need to take it apart again. I will post pics then. Sorry for the long post, I hope it helps someone somewhere. :fineprint:
 

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Yes Sir! Mission accomplished! I put everything together including the rear bracket. However, I put no bolts in the rear bracket and allowed it to align itself on the rear fender. I put one bolt in the standard license plate hole and mounted the rear bracket just to hold it in place (only left hole was uncovered). I then made sure I had everything lined up and that each side carrier could be put on and taken off easily. Then I tightened all the bolts around the footrests on both sides taking care to ensure that none of the brackets moved when I tightened them. I then reconfirmed that the racks could be easily mounted and unmounted.

It was at this point that I realized that I needed to mount the license plate but the OEM license plate bracket would not fit. I called twisted throttle and they told me that they typically just mount the license plate directly over the bracket. This worked like a charm! I used my license plate as a template and drilled a hole at the far left end and right ends of the slot in the mounting bracket. The bolts fit right through the license plate and mount the bracket securely to the fender. I was concerned about drilling the holes, but the way the bracket aligned to the fender, the holes were on the same line as the original license plate mount holes. The drill bit literally on turned two or three revolutions before it went through. This told me that that particular part of the fender was meant to be drilled for license plates (e.g., the fender is the same for all countries but the line where the plate mounts is meant to be drilled to fit any plate). I am still running a temp plate. As soon as I get my permanent plate I will need to take it apart again. I will post pics then. Sorry for the long post, I hope it helps someone somewhere. :fineprint:
Forgot that I took a picture after I mounted the single bolt to hold the bracket in place.....The pic has arrows where I drilled the holes for the license plate. Like I said in my previous post, the drill bit only made one or two revolutions to make it through. The plastic is intentionally thin in these spots.
 

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I think the OEM adventure racks are slightly different as they dont require a turn signal relocation. If you look closely I think the rear bracket is also different.
I have not personally had my hands on the ADV kit that ships with the ADV 2012 model, but I've read the installation notes. Yes they appear almost identical to the regular SW Motech set and according to instructions they do relocate the signals. The kit even ships with the short pieces of wire that are supposed to be connected into the signal wires. Maybe the racks they are shipping don't match the instructions...but I've never seen that happen from an accessory company :biggrinjester: The only difference I could see is that the Suzuki ADV racks have a reflector mounted on them so you have one with or without the panniers installed. The TRAX panniers do not come with reflectors mounted but the Suzuki model do. Gotta be safe and keep DOT happy too.

Regarding the difficulty of mounting/dismounting the racks: I had no problem mounting them. But apparently one or more of the tabs moved when they were tightened. One was a little snug coming off but not something that was bad to deal with. The panniers go on and off the racks really smoothly.
 

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I have not personally had my hands on the ADV kit that ships with the ADV 2012 model, but I've read the installation notes. Yes they appear almost identical to the regular SW Motech set and according to instructions they do relocate the signals. The kit even ships with the short pieces of wire that are supposed to be connected into the signal wires. Maybe the racks they are shipping don't match the instructions...but I've never seen that happen from an accessory company :biggrinjester: The only difference I could see is that the Suzuki ADV racks have a reflector mounted on them so you have one with or without the panniers installed. The TRAX panniers do not come with reflectors mounted but the Suzuki model do. Gotta be safe and keep DOT happy too.

Regarding the difficulty of mounting/dismounting the racks: I had no problem mounting them. But apparently one or more of the tabs moved when they were tightened. One was a little snug coming off but not something that was bad to deal with. The panniers go on and off the racks really smoothly.
You would think they would be exactly the same. I admit that the pics I have seen have been in video and from a little distance. I would love someone with the adventure model to post some close up pics of their cases and racks. Now that I am finished with the project I am definitely happy with the results. the racks and cases both come off very easily now! I think it was worth the money. Here is the video that made me think twice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcGfpoK6p3o

If you look at the back of the bike, the license plate is below the mounting bracket on the fender. Now that you mentioned it I do see those nasty silver posts on the back of the turn signals indicating that they were moved! I stand corrected....
 

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It was at this point that I realized that I needed to mount the license plate but the OEM license plate bracket would not fit. I called twisted throttle and they told me that they typically just mount the license plate directly over the bracket. This worked like a charm! I used my license plate as a template and drilled a hole at the far left end and right ends of the slot in the mounting bracket. The bolts fit right through the license plate and mount the bracket securely to the fender. I was concerned about drilling the holes, but the way the bracket aligned to the fender, the holes were on the same line as the original license plate mount holes. The drill bit literally on turned two or three revolutions before it went through. This told me that that particular part of the fender was meant to be drilled for license plates (e.g., the fender is the same for all countries but the line where the plate mounts is meant to be drilled to fit any plate). I am still running a temp plate. As soon as I get my permanent plate I will need to take it apart again. I will post pics then. Sorry for the long post, I hope it helps someone somewhere. :fineprint:
We ordered a license plate bracket from a 2012 Yamaha FZ8 (I think, it may have been an R1). It was really cheap and put the tag more in the original position and gave us something more solid than the tag to bolt through. We drilled holes in the fender to match the Yamaha tag mount and ran bolts through the tag mount, SW Motech bar, and then the fender. It made for a secure and neat setup.
 

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We ordered a license plate bracket from a 2012 Yamaha FZ8 (I think, it may have been an R1). It was really cheap and put the tag more in the original position and gave us something more solid than the tag to bolt through. We drilled holes in the fender to match the Yamaha tag mount and ran bolts through the tag mount, SW Motech bar, and then the fender. It made for a secure and neat setup.
See previous post Mark...I edited it after the fact. Good call....
 

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Here is what my tag looks like after the install... looks like it is in the normal spot. I washed out the temp tag number but you get the gist..... looks like an orange adventure no?
 

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I made a sheet aluminum backing plate with ears for reflectors and an extension for my city vehicle tax plate and a custom bracket to fit on the crossbar.

 

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I made a sheet aluminum backing plate with ears for reflectors and an extension for my city vehicle tax plate and a custom bracket to fit on the crossbar.

Pat,

Looks like a stock part. You should consider selling them... nice work.

Sean
 
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