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I'm posting here under the North East (Mid Atlantic) region because I am looking for some guidance on a trip I would like to do this summer, if I get the doctor's ok due to ear surgery. This will be my first big trip in the five years I have ridden a motorcycle. I am leaving Milford, NH and traveling to South Hill, VA. Since I am going through some of the worse traffic on the east coast, I'm planning on staying over night in Maryland, some where around Annapolis.

My traffic questions to the "residents" of this region are as follows;

1. Is taking the Tappan Zee Bridge better than the George Washington?
2.Can I ride my Wee legally on the Garden State Parkway?
3. Am I crazy to think I will be able to survive the rest of the trip on the NJ Turnpike?
4. Any thing to worry about crossing the Delaware Memorial Bridge?
5. I plan on getting on 301 ASAP after that and taking it to 95 below Fredericksburg, VA

I have or will have a yellow First Gear Mesh Jacket, black First Gear Mesh pants, and a full face white helmet on. Underneath I will have a cooling vest and something on my head and neck to keep that cool. I will also have a hydration pack on with the tube in my mouth. I used to mountain bike race, so I'm used to the taste of them :). My riding questions;

1. Am I nuts to try this in the middle of July?
2. Anything to worry about along the route with the local's?

I appreciate any and all constructive tips.
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My traffic questions to the "residents" of this region are as follows;

1. Is taking the Tappan Zee Bridge better than the George Washington?
2.Can I ride my Wee legally on the Garden State Parkway?
3. Am I crazy to think I will be able to survive the rest of the trip on the NJ Turnpike?
4. Any thing to worry about crossing the Delaware Memorial Bridge?
5. I plan on getting on 301 ASAP after that and taking it to 95 below Fredericksburg, VA

1. Am I nuts to try this in the middle of July?
2. Anything to worry about along the route with the local's?

I appreciate any and all constructive tips.
Cheers!!
1. Sorry No Help on that one.
2. Sure, but I would take 295 (used to go up to Mt.Holly NJ a lot, much better road-very little traffic, parallels the pike.
3. See 2. above
4. Not unless it's really windy.
5. Pick up 301 as early as you can, beats hell out of 95, 495 around DC. Take it as far as you can below Fredericksburg and you will miss the beach traffic going to Virginia Beach.

1. No not nuts, but if you get hung up in slow traffic it will be hot. If you have a GPS it will get you off the highway if you run into traffic and you can take alternate routes.
2. Not that I am aware of, just don't stop in SE DC for any reason. Annapolis is a good stop over point or just off highway near Annapolis.

Keep in mind weekends are busy on 95-S between DC and I-64 East, so 301 is a good solution.

South Hill isn't far from Buggs Island Lake - been there (and through South Hill) dozens of times. Nice area.....

Once you get on 85 you are home free - no traffic good MPH (65 or 70)
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Chuck,
Thanks for the response. You provided some good tips. I've done this trip in the cage many times, but if I have to stick to the cage I might use your tips. I'm glad that my "choices" were pretty good.
Thanks again for the response. If I do this, I'll put up a post. Maybe I can get an "escort". I'm planning on doing this during the work week.
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Joe
 

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Shouldn't be any reason you can't take the parkway but that's far too many tolls for my liking unless you have ez-pass.

I would take the NJ Turnpike over 295. Large sections of 295 are concrete with expansion gaps that give you a nasty bump about every 5 to 10 seconds.
 

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Duly noted meanmotorscooter on the 295 vs NJTurnpike. I forgot to mention that I have an EZ Pass on the bike, so tolls are not a problem. Thanks for the information and keep the replies coming!!
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301 South of Fredericksburg is nice especially through Bowling Green and Hanover. You could then take 295 and go around Richmond and Petersburg. You would have to get on 95 for a short while to get to 85S.
You might try coming down on Route 1 from Fredericksburg. It's 4 lane without a center divider.
Both routes avoid 95. Remember, King's Dominion is open. Avoid Richmond between 4pm and 6:30pm during the week.

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Dealing with the Heat

Great driving tips and confirms that this is the route to take, I've done most of it in a car once. MY other question, if you all do not mind, is dealing with the heat, especially in Maryland and Virginia. I'm a yankee and when it gets over 85 up here, I'm reaching for the AC switch at home and in the cage. Any thoughts or tips? I know I will roast if stuck in traffic and plan on having a hydration pack on the bike and some "spare" fluids in a cooler, as well as the cooling vest.
I appreciate any thoughts.
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I wouldn't take 95 if my life depended on it. I've done it many many times in a car (from boston to washington) and there are many other routes I'd take over 95.

If you want to take the highway, your best bet in my opinion would be to stay on 84 all the way down to wilkes barre or scranton where it hooks up with I81. Once you get out of Connecticut on I84, its a beautiful drive. Storm King Mountain in NY is probably the prettiest view of any Interstate Highway I've traveled.

I81 Hooks up with I66 at Front Royal, and from there you can hit 234, Prince William Parkway, or US 17 off 66 and bypass all of the DC 95 Mess. Below Woodbridge its not as bad.

The I84/I81 route was my preferred way of getting from Boston to WV. The increase in distance is more than made up for by the absence of I95 traffic, and the absolutely insane driving that you will encounter on I95. In my experience, when you factor how much time you'll spend stuck in bumper to bumper traffic on 95, you're better off taking the longer route.
 

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Great driving tips and confirms that this is the route to take, I've done most of it in a car once. MY other question, if you all do not mind, is dealing with the heat, especially in Maryland and Virginia. I'm a yankee and when it gets over 85 up here, I'm reaching for the AC switch at home and in the cage. Any thoughts or tips? I know I will roast if stuck in traffic and plan on having a hydration pack on the bike and some "spare" fluids in a cooler, as well as the cooling vest.
I appreciate any thoughts.
Cheers
Joe
Mesh jackets are great for hot weather - but I wear my Kilaminjaro up to about 85-90 deg as long as I am moving (plus darien overpants). Trouble is there isn't much room to carry a spare jacket on long trips so I just unzip the the big heavy Kil-jacket or bungee it on behind me and keep on going in shirt sleeves. I do carry a pair of kevlar jeans and use them when it is really hot too.

But I like to keep geared up as much as possible - sweat you can wash off- road-rash you cannot.

Haven't tried it yet but just picked up one of those bandana like things that you soak in water and it absorbs (like those gel/crystal things inside I guess) - then you put it around your neck and ride to keep you cool. Should help.
 

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Leaning Towards the Cage

Like I said, I don't like the heat and humidity. That's why I live in NH. Yes, we get a few hot spells, but I can get away to the mountains on the bike and feel better. I'm not calling off doing the ride on the bike, it's going to be more of "What's the weather going to be like this week..." decision that will seal it for one or the other. I appreciate the post's, but I know how I am in a car with the AC and it's hot outside, I get REALLY cranky, so it would be much worse on the Wee. I'll keep you posted.

I guess I'm not a "real" rider. :D
 

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I took 295 on the way back from NYC this weekend - picked it up at 195 and there is very little concrete and the traffic was relatively light - seems that it is mostly asphalt now. I liked it better than NJTP to that point.
 

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Before I joined the Army I rode from Andover MA to Ocean City, MD for a vacation with friends so it was much of the same route. Riding through the Delaware marshes (on my 1979 Suzuki GS750) at dawn was terrific. I wore a full-face helmet, leather driving gloves, and for protection against a crash, a rugby shirt. Strapped a big duffle bag onto the back of the seat and luggage rack.

It's not thrilling. Personally I'd take 84-684 but taking 91 to 15 to 95 is OK most of the time. The advice to take 301 to Annapolis is very good.

EZ Pass makes a big difference. Do you have a GPS?
 

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Joe, my travel schedule in July is up in the air, but if you have a firm date you'll be in Annapolis, and if I'm in-country, I can meet you in Annapolis and bring you through southern Maryland and into Virginia (crossing the 301 Bridge). I can take you as far as Richmond or so.

I realize the dates are major factors here, but if yours and mine work out, I'd be happy to run escort for you. Just wish I had better info than this, but Uncle Sam is pretty spastic sometimes.

I'll PM you my cell and email addy. Stay in touch, and maybe we can make this happen.

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A major advantage of GSP over I-95 is the lack of truck traffic in the northern half of NJ. Also it is a smoother road surface as well.
Depending on your time allotment, consider taking Bear Mt. bridge instead of TZ or GWB. Nicer views and ride unless heights and cliffs are not your thing.

Also time dependant, think about taking the GSP from top to bottom of NJ and then a relaxing ferry ride over into Delaware. If you don't want the CBBT, I think there is another ferry from Del. to VA.
All great advice!

Joe, my travel schedule in July is up in the air, but if you have a firm date you'll be in Annapolis, and if I'm in-country, I can meet you in Annapolis and bring you through southern Maryland and into Virginia (crossing the 301 Bridge). I can take you as far as Richmond or so.

I realize the dates are major factors here, but if yours and mine work out, I'd be happy to run escort for you. Just wish I had better info than this, but Uncle Sam is pretty spastic sometimes.///
Well, he's old and forgetful.....
 

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1. Is taking the Tappan Zee Bridge better than the George Washington?
2.Can I ride my Wee legally on the Garden State Parkway?
3. Am I crazy to think I will be able to survive the rest of the trip on the NJ Turnpike?
4. Any thing to worry about crossing the Delaware Memorial Bridge?
5. I plan on getting on 301 ASAP after that and taking it to 95 below Fredericksburg, VA

Cheers!!

From Milford? where would you pick up 9, Keene?

I'd take Rt 9 to NY22/NY199 to Kingston then 209 to Lehighton then south

why fuss with the city and potential traffic

what day of week is your trip, not a saturday I hope



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Caged IT

Glad I caged it for the trip. Your weather here has been VERY warm for this extremely northern boy! I do thank you all for the advice and will keep it in mind if I try to do this trip during the more cooler months. It was very nice to cut across Maryland on 301 in the comfort of the AC. I hand it to you that are out there riding in this weather. I saw quite a few motorcycles on that part of the trip and just was in awe.
Thanks again
TTNH
 
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