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Well, the Trailer In A Bag guy died a couple of months ago in some sort of accident, and he left no successor for his patent.


The TIB was the perfect answer for me. I'm in a cargo van. I get to my destination, remove the two axle pins, remove two axles/wheels, and throw the rail (left fully assembled) and the two axles/wheels in the back of the van. Done.


Anyone know of a similar alternative? Something that a single person could easily throw into the back of a cargo van when not in use?

I have looked at the Stinger, but no way am I lifting that thing by myself.

Can't find any used TIB for sale in my area either. One on eBay, but it's local only.

Thanks in advance for any help.


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It has been turned over to the state, and assumed that maybe years, upon years from now (probably a day before the actual patent run out) maybe someone will be able to begin production again.


That's a shame. If you die and have absolutely no heirs, then all of your intellectual property (mainly patents) should be public domain.
 

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Stinger may work

Stinger may work, just unbolt the two "hinges" to reduce the lifted weight
(I have a Stinger MC trailer), you could also take the wheels off the hubs if you had to.
 

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Haven't seen the thing, but I don't think it's illegal to make your own version (or have one made for you by a fabricator). Sounds like it's just wheels, rails, hitch parts and lights - probably could put one together with one trip to Tractor Supply.
 

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Well, the Trailer In A Bag guy died a couple of months ago in some sort of accident, and he left no successor for his patent.


The TIB was the perfect answer for me. I'm in a cargo van. I get to my destination, remove the two axle pins, remove two axles/wheels, and throw the rail (left fully assembled) and the two axles/wheels in the back of the van. Done.


Anyone know of a similar alternative? Something that a single person could easily throw into the back of a cargo van when not in use?

I have looked at the Stinger, but no way am I lifting that thing by myself.

Can't find any used TIB for sale in my area either. One on eBay, but it's local only.

Thanks in advance for any help.


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It has been turned over to the state, and assumed that maybe years, upon years from now (probably a day before the actual patent run out) maybe someone will be able to begin production again.


That's a shame. If you die and have absolutely no heirs, then all of your intellectual property (mainly patents) should be public domain.
Not that it helps you at the moment, but patents only matter if someone is interested in enforcing them. Pretty sure someone could do direct knockoffs without an issue.

(Caveat!!! I'm an NOT in favor of stealing people's designs. In general it's a very slimey thing to do. No different than reaching into their pocket and stealing their wallet. But this seems to be a special case, with no heirs and no one that owner of the patent has willed the IP to. I don't see much of a moral issue here.)
 

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Stinger may work, just unbolt the two "hinges" to reduce the lifted weight
(I have a Stinger MC trailer), you could also take the wheels off the hubs if you had to.
I am very interested in this. Called some dealers today about breaking it down, and none had any information.

What hinges? What part would come off and how time consuming would it be to remove them?

Any help on breaking this thing down will help me a lot.

I am thinking I could actually just throw a jack underneath it to get it to van floorboard height, but trying to get it to fit in a small van or SUV might be challenging.

I am seeing measurements of 48" and 52" on folded width. Going to call tomorrow and try to get conformation.

Thanks again.




Not that it helps you at the moment, but patents only matter if someone is interested in enforcing them. Pretty sure someone could do direct knockoffs without an issue.

(Caveat!!! I'm an NOT in favor of stealing people's designs. In general it's a very slimey thing to do. No different than reaching into their pocket and stealing their wallet. But this seems to be a special case, with no heirs and no one that owner of the patent has willed the IP to. I don't see much of a moral issue here.)

I didn't even think of that. So very true.
 

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I ditched the single bike trailer and built my own hitch hauler:






I put reflectors and led lights on it. Any class 3 hitch can handle 500+ lbs easy.
 

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I'm in a cargo van. I get to my destination, remove the two axle pins, remove two axles/wheels, and throw the rail (left fully assembled) and the two axles/wheels in the back of the van. Done.

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IF you are in a cargo van, why not just get a ramp? Yes, you may have to remove the mirrors and windshield.
 

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Hitch haulers are okay for short distances on smooth roads. Unless they are over engineered they can crack. I have put many thousands of miles on different hitch haulers and both developed cracks. I'm talking coast to coast. I now use a utility trailer and also throw on my bicycle and other items. Everything is a compromise. A trailer is a pain at times but it does the job well. Anyway it is what I found works for me.


 

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Well, the Trailer In A Bag guy died a couple of months ago in some sort of accident, and he left no successor for his patent.


The TIB was the perfect answer for me. I'm in a cargo van. I get to my destination, remove the two axle pins, remove two axles/wheels, and throw the rail (left fully assembled) and the two axles/wheels in the back of the van. Done.


Anyone know of a similar alternative? Something that a single person could easily throw into the back of a cargo van when not in use?

I have looked at the Stinger, but no way am I lifting that thing by myself.

Can't find any used TIB for sale in my area either. One on eBay, but it's local only.

Thanks in advance for any help.


More on TIB:
It has been turned over to the state, and assumed that maybe years, upon years from now (probably a day before the actual patent run out) maybe someone will be able to begin production again.


That's a shame. If you die and have absolutely no heirs, then all of your intellectual property (mainly patents) should be public domain.
I wondered what happened to TIB. I was interested in one, but all of a sudden their website was gone, and the dealerships that sold them posted notices that they could no longer get them but they didn't explain why.
 

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Hitch haulers are okay for short distances on smooth roads. Unless they are over engineered they can crack. I have put many thousands of miles on different hitch haulers and both developed cracks. I'm talking coast to coast. I now use a utility trailer and also throw on my bicycle and other items. Everything is a compromise. A trailer is a pain at times but it does the job well. Anyway it is what I found works for me.


I like you set up....This was was my all time best camping rig until the wife decided she wanted a van camper:headbang:






I used a 7 wide x 6' long hitch hauler on my truck camper that I built...and I consider myself a novice welder. I hauled a 25Kw PTO generator from Minneapolis to TN on it with no issues. The weight of the genset and it's trailer were about 500 lbs.....Minnesota interstates absolutely suck especially in winter. The same hitch hauler went to Manitoba and back twice with a DRZ on it.

You are right, small gauge tubing and only one point attachment(mine had three) to the truck frame is a hauler that should never carry over 100lbs.
 

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Didn't read all replies, but since I'm also a truck camper guy:

I've seen some DIY "back porch" mods added to truck campers. A deck is hinged or bolted onto the back of the camper, and chains or steel cables run from the outside corners up to the jack bolting flanges to support the cantilevered end. The flanges thru with the jacks are bolted are designed to lift the whole camper off the truck, so it's nothing for them to hold up a light deck, onto which a moto could be loaded.

Instead of the weight being on the hitch, it's distributed into the camper (altho that moves the camper's CG back, so be careful). If all the numbers work out, that allows you to carry a heavier bike back there without having to drag a trailer. Put that all on a 4WD truck and you can get pretty far afield.

I'm looking forward to taking the bike with the truck camper - what a perfect combo!! The truck does the long-distance highway slogging to get you somewhere (like, say, cross-country to CO or CA). Find a spot to camp, deploy the bike and do big day-ride loops ending back at the camper where you have a queen bed, fridge, stove, bathroom, heat and AC, etc. Super-luxury camping, bike not loaded down with gear, backup transportation far from home, huge carrying capacity for tools, gear, spares, no slabbing X country on a bike...
When you've ridden an area out, load up, move base camp, and repeat.
 

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Yeah, screw the laws. You should be able to whack someone because they took your parking space. That's what real men do.

Is there an emoticon on here somewhere for a face palm?
 

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Ok, looked it up.

Yeah, make one, or find someone to make you one. There's nothing to that.
I was going to try that myself, but I could never seem to find anyone on line who actually had one, so they could take measurements for me. I wanted to know stuff like the exact wall thicknesses of the tubing, exact dimensions, etc. I didn't trust my own trailer design skills, but I'm pretty confident that I could have built one from someone else's plan. I do recall pricing out steel, stub axles, tires, etc and finding out that silly looking little trailer was going to be more expensive to make than I thought.
 

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I found this video on line some time back when I was searching for a trailer. It appears to be the same trailer as the one described as the Ace.

You can always take reviews with a grain of salt, but the video does show some of the construction of the trailer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PISLeO2Ri0
 
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