Bought a Tourmaster Epic jacket a couple of months ago, for around $200, making it an expensive cheap jacket or a cheap expensive jacket. Comes with a removable Thinsulate liner, which I immediately removed since the temps haven't been below 60 since then. Jacket has 4 vents on the front, three on the back, making it reasonable comfortable up to around 90 or so, at least with my stock K2 widnshield. Jacket has a built-in waterproof membrane. Obviously, with the vents open it isn't waterproof. Haven't tried it in a pouring rain yet, but yesterday was riding in steady drizzle with intermittant rain for an hour or so, and nothing the jacket covered got wet. Armored in shoulders and back. Has a few gimmicks (built-in kidney belt, waterproof hood for under-helmet use) that I haven't tried yet. Two outside waterpoof pockets, one interior (wallet sized) along with pouches for MP3 or what have you. Seems like a decent jacket for the price. Styled somewhat like the old waxed-cotton jackets, so it is a bit longer on the bottom, which is nice, since the extra length in back keeps the lower back well-covered, providing extra warmth in chilly weather. Obviously built to a price (one of the snaps on the kidney belt kept coming loose, needed a bit of adjustment) and probably won't hold up like the expensive jackets, but since I don't ride every day, or for long periods, maybe not an issue.