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I am getting ready to install Givi Crash guards on my DL 650. What should the bolts be torqued to :?:
 

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The DL1000 manual says Engine Mounting Bracket Bolts 16.5 ft/lbs or
18N.m. I would support the engine with a jack if possible. Take off and install one side at a time. Make sure you have put in the spacer in front of the rad on the bar or you will be removing them twice. The side panel has to come off for the top bolt. I'm about to put on my previous crashed bars off my 1000 on to my 650. Just bent them back out and spray bombed them.

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Thanks Scooter. Your on target, as I asked a mechanic that was doing some work on my Concours. He said 16 ft. Lbs. for 8 mm bolts.

Unfortunately the Givi bars did NOT fit :( You can line up two of the mounting bolts on one side, but the other two are off about 1/4". No flexing to fit on those dudes either. They are solid and I like the looks of them. They had instructions that indicated DL 650. Apparently they are a bit different than the DL1000 according to the rep at Twisted Throttle. I am thinking I was sent the bars for the DL1000.
 

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I will see if your right on the DL1000 bars. The bike is also narrower then the 1000. If my bar doesn't fit I will add it to my sale pile along with the 1000 centerstand. Or maybe since I'am stubborb with the centerstand I will try cutting out a 1" from the middle section to try to make it fit. Have accesses to fabrication.

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Your Givi bars must have been fabricated improperly. Just installed my bent bars from my 1000 on to my 650. Even with me standing on one, trying to bend it back out it still fit. The reason I kept the bars was that I had welded on a threaded stub for my highway pegs to screw on too, plus I had used red Locktite on them. I can still see the bars are still tweeked.
Very close to the fairing on the left side where the 1000 went down on. About a 1" gap on the right side. Oh well they still work and I kind of like the painted over war wounds.

DL1000 Givi crash bars do fit on a DL650, identical.

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Next project is my Suzuki luggage rack from my 1000. Everthing seems to line up except on one arm to the foot peg it needs an extension.
Already have the top case on. I will have to see how much wind drag is on the Kappa hard Luggage. Not a big deal if I have to ride slower then the 1000, its for seeing the site and touring not having everything go by in a blurr.
 
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Givi Crash Bars

Is anybody else experiencing the significant increase in vibration after installing the crash bars. It's as if the things are acting as a tuning fork and the vibrations are magnified and then sent back up through the bike.

Im kind of dissapointed and curious if other people have experienced this because I have not seen any threads mentioning this problem.

I would send a warning to those who plan on this modification.

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now that I'm pushing my fiddy more, I am noticing that the grips and pegs do vibrate around 5k RPM.

I have the H&B bars installed.

...and the instructions that came with the bars stated that the bolts should be torqued to 27 Nm (~20 ft/lbs).
 

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After my near 6-month disfunctional relationship with the Givi engine guards... I have removed them; probably for good. They looked good, they gave protection higher up on the fairing, I had mitigated vibration issues pretty well regarding the spacer (rubber tape, nylon washer, crossed tie-wrap), and had filled them with Great StuffTM to deaden what vibration was left.

Then I changed my tires to Metzler Tourances and the vibrations returned, albeit at a slightly lower RPM. I was close to a 8K service so I let it go for a few weeks. Nope after new plugs and a TBS it was still there. Odd why the tire change affected it (since it is an RPM specfic prob), but with a tuning fork phenomina - who can determine all the factors?

Givi has since my installation acknowledged "a" problem so I decided to cut the weight and take them off. (ignore the folks who say you are mechanically inept).

If they work for you they are great. If they don't, best of luck. I'm satisfied with the protection my frame sliders will provide, and in reality there are really relatively few instances when any one one protection system will work 100%. In a hard hit no one is expecting them to hold up. In a soft tip-over (where you "assist" dropping the bike) they might not even touch ground. The turn signals, brake or clutch lever, shifter, or rear brake will certainly touch ground.
 
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Jonesy said:
I am getting ready to install Givi Crash guards on my DL 650. What should the bolts be torqued to :?:
The Suzuki manual, on Pg 3-12, for the engine mounting bracket bolt gives a torque figure of: 35 N-m / 25.5 Lb-ft w/ threadlock "1342".

I torqued my 650 Givi crash guards to that spec three weeks ago with no problems then or since (why the h. they don't give that info, with their supplied bolts, baffles me!).

Here is a web site for this info from the manual http://www.tpgtex.com/calsci/DL650K4_svc_man.pdf

If anyone out there has info that indicates this is in error, I want to know it!

-Guy


P.S. What a great bike
 
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