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Hi all,

Well I've had my 07DL650 for a few weeks now and have realized the need for storage. Are hard bags the way to go? I found some soft tail bags that look good, such as this one http://www.aerostich.com/product.php?productid=16406 or this one http://www.aerostich.com/product.php?productid=16405&cat=280&page=1 . The only reason that I can think of for hard over soft is security. I worry about leaving a soft bag on my bike when in a store or restaurant or something but the cost of hard cases is so high. Its not just the cases though, you have to buy all the mounting hardware as well. I was looking at some Givi top and side cases and the cheapest combo I can come up with is just over $530. So is it worth the cost?

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For an inexpensive hard case w/mounting hardware, try J.C. Whitney. Their largest is not much bigger than halding a full face helmet, and I'm not sure it's what you want for major touring. BUT for everyday use and at $59.99 to $89.99 it'll be hard to beat.
 

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I have the luxury, for the moment of having both. I started with soft luggage -the Nelson Rigg DSLB500 and RTB500 combo. Worked well, good quality and rain covers actually work. A little small for what I like to carry and because of the high , outboard exhaust, the bags stretch their strap lenghts to about 5 inches. Also, need a support for the left side bag on the 650 ($4 for 1" aluminum bar and some bending at Home Depot. Once tethered however - they work fine but same worries about what you do with them when you leave them.

I wanted something larger and more rigid that was also secure+ locakable. I have Givi E41s with an E52 top case - total storage -136l total storage space whihc is great since I travel with clothes, 4 piece fly rod and Nikon cameras just about everywhere I go. Lockable, easily removable and looks good. (You can do it with the soft bags as well - just leaves a little less space for some things).

I was going to sell the Nelson Riggs but decided to keep them for perhaps and unusual reason.....recently I accidentlally knocked my bike off the side stand with the Givis - popped left bag off and broke the top latch - $35 Cdn later, + 2 weeks wait I had the part to replace on my now not so new hard bag (scuffed up a bit but no real damage except to my pride. Since I do more than a little gravel road day tripping with rod /reel and cameral, I'd rather scuff up a flexible soft bag than the Givi's (when I don't really need all that capacity for the day. That's what I've been doing when I don't need to haul a lot along for a day mostly on gravel - saving my Givis for larger things, longer trips, usualy just keeping the top case on and using the soft side bags.

As far as keeping things waterproof - even with good covers on soft luggage - I still invest in dry bags (from my canoe camping days) to carry stuff and never have had a problem yet.

One nice thing about hard luggage - althgouh it's a small point - ease of getting most hard cases on / off bike. My Givi set are a 30 second operation for all 3 cases and easy to carry into hotel room. Soft bags - a little more but no problem.

For me, this approach, albeit more initial cost, works. Hope there's some useful points for thought.

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I think the topcase is the best item you can buy for your motorcycle. I commute during the warm 6 months of the year, and I use it every day I ride. Nothing is more useful to me.
 

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My Givi E52 topcase is the single most useful accessory I've put on the bike. I had a Cortech Sport tailbag for the longest time, but since I commute with the bike I wanted something bigger, lockable, and waterproof. It's all those things. Yes, the Cortech tailbag has a rain cover that works, but if a thunderstorm pops up (an almost daily occurence in the summer here in Florida) I don't have to run out to the bike to put the cover on.
 

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I use my E460 every time I go riding. I'm very happy with it and can say that it is the most useful thing I have bought for the bike.

I haven't used my tankbag since buying the topcase except for a long multi-day trip where I had to carry the girlfriends curling iron and whatnot. I doubt the tankbag will ever see the Strom again....or until I'm lugging her stuff around next year.
 

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Hi!

I have hada Givi E52 hard Top Case for the last couple of weeks. I had had my V-Strom 650 for a month and a bit and only have 4000 km on it. The E52 is really handy in a lot of diffent ways. Probably the nicest is that it does only take seconds to put on or take off, it is a reasonably secure and I don't worry about leaving the bike with stuff in the case when shopping, etc. I also nicely double as a backrest he odd time I have one of the kids on the back.

I am doing some communting to work with the bike when it is decent weather and that entails a 60 km ride one way. I have to wear a suit and tie to work. One nice thing thing from is that you can just loosely set the suit pants and jacket in the bag and as long as nothing is on top of them they don't get wrinkled at all.

I don't know the best answer for you but the Hard top bag sure works well!

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Thanks for all the input and advice. I think that I'll go ahead and get a hard top case at least. Now comes the equally hard part about picking the right size. This is where I go a little nuts, trying to pick between function and fashion. You know, findin' a top case that is big enough to be useable but no so big as it looks like a UFO has landed on the back of the bike. :)

Again, thanks for all the great input.

Grey
 

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Hard Cases

I bought 2 GIVI 460s with a top and side mounts.
I use one of the cases on the top mount for commuting and both on the side mounts when touring. If I need to carry more stuff for touring I tie a canoe bag across the passenger seat and the hard cases. Also the hard cases on the side mounts provide some protection if you drop the bike
 

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Have a Shad 46 top case and fairly happy with it. Also have Shad 43 Side cases and am not real happy with the whole affair. Poor quality, poor fitting hardware, too many mods to the bike to make them fit and that's the second set. Also the 43's are very expensive compared to the 42's which I gave up waiting for after 4 months. Would go with Givi next time.
 

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GreyDR said:
Its not just the cases though, you have to buy all the mounting hardware as well.
One of my first farkle was a Kappa K46 topcase.
I was and still am soooo glad with it! The best buck$ I spent on my bike so far!
It is Givi class in terms of quality, finish and look (Kappa manufactures the cases for Givi). Fully compatible with Givi racks and what the most impressive with that case for me is (besides its lower price) that unless you want sidecases it is not necessary to buy a special adaptor for it! You can install the universal adaptor (which is supplied with the case) to the DL's rack directly without drilling new holes!
You can see a detailed report here how to.

The K46 (46 litres capacity) is large enough to carry two full-face helmets, but doesn't look too big IMO. For daily use it is a must and has enough capacity.

For longer trips you should consider soft luggage to avoid installing racks and save money. Security is not an issue 'cause then you take them with you by all means.
 

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Kappa

Does anyone know who sells Kappa here in the states? I googled, but can't find a U.S. retailer.
 

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Realisticaly, I don't know to many people that bought V-Stroms based on fashion! Just get the case you think will do the best job for you.


..Tom


GreyDR said:
Thanks for all the input and advice. I think that I'll go ahead and get a hard top case at least. Now comes the equally hard part about picking the right size. This is where I go a little nuts, trying to pick between function and fashion. You know, findin' a top case that is big enough to be useable but no so big as it looks like a UFO has landed on the back of the bike. :)

Again, thanks for all the great input.

Grey
 

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GreyDR said:
This is where I go a little nuts, trying to pick between function and fashion. You know, findin' a top case that is big enough to be useable but no so big as it looks like a UFO has landed on the back of the bike. :)
I thought that at first but got bags when the wife and I took an overnight trip. I just put the side bags on for something like that but the top case stays on all the time - I am really dependent on it now!

V-Tom said:
Realisticaly, I don't know to many people that bought V-Stroms based on fashion!
What he said! :p
 

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I am thinking REALLY HARD....about getting a top case! Been looking at the Givi E350.
 

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Re: Kappa

mokusbajusz said:
drummer said:
Does anyone know who sells Kappa here in the states? I googled, but can't find a U.S. retailer.
Try this:

http://www.kappamoto.com/eng/concess.asp?country=usa
I tried that link but it took me to a page with a couple of phone numbers, in Bermuda. :?

I too searched around for Kappa stuff in North America and didn't have much luck... It's just not as widely distributed here as Givi.

So I searched around for Givi stuff and ended up at Sporttour.com. Their prices seemed really good so I gave 'em a try...

Well, so far, I'm very happy. I received and installed (that's another story to follow in a couple of days!) my Givi E52 yesterday from Sporttour.com. Their relatively close proximity (Ohio) to my ship-to address in Michigan means really quick UPS service; my order shipped Wednesday via UPS ground and arrived Friday. :D

I think Sporttour.com is my new favourite vendor. Here's a link to their V-strom stuff page; prices seem very competitive. http://www.sporttour.com/VStrom.htm
A day after I ordered the Givi, I noticed they had a free-shipping promo on the Cortech Mini bag so I ordered one and asked them to ship it in the same box as the Givi which they did. That saved me a couple of bucks at my ship-to address (a UPS outlet) because they charge a fee for each package.

Anyway, aside from some minor installation hassles (a pic in the instructions shows the front bracket backwards), the E52 is a great piece of gear; the Cortech too. I don't know how I got along without them.

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Martin said:
mokusbajusz said:
drummer said:
Does anyone know who sells Kappa here in the states? I googled, but can't find a U.S. retailer.
Try this:

http://www.kappamoto.com/eng/concess.asp?country=usa
I tried that link but it took me to a page with a couple of phone numbers, in Bermuda. :?
I did found it under the Distributors->North America menu. Sorry, I didn't noticed that it is in Bermuda...

I checked it again and found that the colsest is a Canadian address:
http://www.kappamoto.com/eng/concess.asp?country=canada

I will edit my original post.
 

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So what is the smallest top case that will hold two full face helmets? I am either going to go with a 33L case just for some light storage and a back rest for my wife or one large enought to hold two helmets for those romantic nights when we take the bike to a nice place and I don't want to spend ten minutes taking the seat off to put on those #@!& helmet straps.

Thanks

Grey
 
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