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I bought my 05 650 with Shinko 705's on it with unknown mileage. After about 5000 miles I noticed the front had these raised spots on the center tread.I'm not an aggressive rider and I checked the tire pressure frequently. I can't figure out what is causing this. Any ideas?
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I bought my 05 650 with Shinko 705's on it with unknown mileage. After about 5000 miles I noticed the front had these raised spots on the center tread.I'm not an aggressive rider and I checked the tire pressure frequently. I can't figure out what is causing this. Any ideas?
I bought my 05 650 with Shinko 705's on it with unknown mileage. After about 5000 miles I noticed the front had these raised spots on the center tread.I'm not an aggressive rider and I checked the tire pressure frequently. I can't figure out what is causing this. Any ideas?

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I have run 705"s on my strom for around 75,000km The front will scallop like that at about 20,000km that's when I replace them. My last front 705 went 30,000km with still lots of tread but bad cupping like yours, I switched it out for a Dunlop trailmax mission.
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first time ever seeing anything like that on a tire before. Kinda cool in a bad way.
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I have never seen anything like that before and its uniform spacing, independent of the tread pattern would worry me.
You say that you have had the bike for 5,000 miles. Has there been any unusual use or storage practice?

It is not cupping. Is it all of the way around?
I would be removing the tire and checking inside for defects. Even then, I would want to find an explanation or replace it.
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I've put thousands of miles on 705s, never had any look like that. Change it/them asap.
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I have had a bunch of sets of 705's and I like them. But, all the fronts cupped enough that I replaced them before they were really worn out. None of them looked like yours though. That looks bizarre to me. If it were mine, I'd get a new tire on there pretty quick. And I'd be curious to see the inside of that one. Maybe post a picture here?
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Must be a new variant of the 705 made from octopus hide.

Very curious development you've photographed.

Any odd pattern on the rear?

I'd find an email addy for Shinko and send them some pictures and ask what they think.

And I'd get a new tire on there pronto.
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Yup, replace and don't worry about it. That tire is ROACHED. Shinko won't care -- they'll tell you, correctly, that it's worn out and not their problem.

As a reasonably educated guess, I'd say the PO rode around with badly underinflated tires.

I once changed tires on a Wee with 705s. The bike arrived (after a 45 minute highway trip to my house) with 17psi in the front and 19psi in the rear. The front had a very, very weird wear pattern a lot like yours. And yes, the tires were very warm... made them super-easy to remove, anyway. The owner had somehow never, not once, thought to check tire pressure.

The other thing to bear in mind is that strange front tire wear patterns are very, very normal for knobby and blocky tires that see significant pavement use. If riders don't have experience with this, it's unsettling. Over on ADVrider.com panic and anger over perfectly normal funky front tire wear is a super-common topic.

The physics of front tire wear on motorcycles is very strange, counter-intuitive, and poorly understood, with tons of absolutely brainless Crusty Olde Byker Legends passed off as fact. I won't get too far into the topic here, but all you need to know is that all front tires wear out in very different ways than rear tires, there's always some sort of regular-ish scalloped pattern to it, more wear on one side is perfectly normal, and that tread design and depth make a lot of difference in what you see.

When you start to see and feel front tire wear, whatever the amusing wear pattern is, it's time to replace. And the corollary is that it's rarely worth trying to use up two rear tires for every front; I've pretty much given up on that and always replace motorcycle tires in sets.
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I'm in the camp of contact Shinko and see what they have to say. You don't get what you don't ask for.
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Doesn’t look like cupping to me, more like mini aliens trying to get out. The tire also doesn’t look wore out to me. I’d contact Shinko.
I had a similar pattern on one of mine a few years ago.
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Replace ASAP. And if you only go offroad on the occasional fire road, consider a more road oriented 90/10 tire.
You get what you pay for.
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You get what you pay for.
I bought my 05 650 with Shinko 705's on it with unknown mileage. After about 5000 miles I noticed the front had these raised spots on the center tread.I'm not an aggressive rider and I checked the tire pressure frequently. I can't figure out what is causing this. Any ideas?
What's the date code on the tire? I don't like to use any tire that's more than about 7 years old on any of my vehicles -
In my teens, as I was embarking on my two-wheeled life, a wise man told me to never cheap out on brakes and tyres👍.
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I had a similar pattern on one of mine a few years ago.
Yep, to be clear, this is simply what a very worn-out front Shinko 705 looks like.

Or, at least, one of the ways it can manifest, especially if the tire has spent a lot of paved time underinflated.

Front tires do not wear out like rear tires.

You can waste time complaining, or you can replace the tires and go ride.
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When you start to see and feel front tire wear, whatever the amusing wear pattern is, it's time to replace. And the corollary is that it's rarely worth trying to use up two rear tires for every front; I've pretty much given up on that and always replace motorcycle tires in sets.
10-4- just like shoe laces.
Greywolf must be spinning! Tire conversations were his nemesis. Godspeed, fine sir.

Many of the modern dual-sport tires will use different rubber compounds in the center of the tread to increase both wet traction and resistance to wear during highway riding. Not sure if Shinko is using a silica enriched compound in the center (Bridgestone and Michelin both tout the harder silica compounds for longevity) but that front tire was likely run for many miles with lowered air pressure, resulting in scalloping. Heavy reliance on using only front brakes will increase cupping as the bike tends to dive and "squash" the front tire, causing uneven wear.
Remove, replace, ride, repeat!
Just to be accurate I've had scalloping on many front tires, but only had 1 that had that circular pattern in the middle. That includes 5 or 6 Shinko 705's.
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