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Talking to a guy about trading my 2008 Vee for a 2005 Honda ST1300. Any thoughts? I know Clem has one that he loves.

I'm wondering how the Honda is riding two-up. Big Mama and me ain't exactly small and it gets tight on the Vee after a while...
 

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I sat on an ST1300 a few times. I didn't even want to ride it after that. It was just HUGE feeling, and very top heavy.
Many people love those bikes, though. However, there is some talk of high-speed instability causing wrecks. Others say it emits tremendous amounts of heat. That could be good or bad, depending on the climate in which you ride.
I would not trade my DL1000 for an ST1300, but I am not you. You may be a bigger person than I am, so its size/weight may not be so unwieldy to you.

Best of luck with your decision. Ride safely.
 

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I sold my ST1300 for a Vee last year. After 13,000 km I just could not get comfortable on the Honda: my shins hit the fairing and the bars were too low (despite using risers). I'm kinda tall, that made things worse. I bought the Vee for its roomy ergos. Compared to the Honda the Vee feels like a big dirt bike.

Honda Good Stuff:
- electric-smooth motor
- very good power
- integrated bags
- very good weather protection

Honda Not So Good:
- HEAVY! It's a bear around town and in the garage.
- cramped if you're more than 6 ft
- have to remove lots of plastic for maintenance, lots of plastic rivets too
- more "sporty" suspension (i.e. stiff); maybe this is a plus if you're into that

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I have an ST1100 with 106,000 mi. I love the bike, and probably the next MC I buy will be an ST1300 to replace it.

They are pig heavy, and you don't want to pick it up alone, but once it's rolling it is a thing of beauty. It's bigger in the cabin (a little) than the Vee, and it really is made for high mileage days.

I have both (and a 1200 Bandit), and don't look at them as competing much. If I need to go over 500 miles I'll take the ST. If I need to go get a ticket, I'll take the Bandit. If I need to go, I'll take the Vee:)

YMMV
 

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I just came off a FJR and the Honda and the Connie are very similar. Excellent for the slab, nothing better than maybe a full touring bike. Lots of power and room. Still top heavy, but not as much. All are heavy bikes. The Honda is the lightest. I would really look at the 2010 Connie, I was very impressed with it and cheaper too. The ST is getting a bit long in the tooth without any changes or improvements IMO to justify the cost.
 

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It took me two years of arm twisting (my own) before i took the plunge and sold the ST1300 for the VEE. Yes there are fun things about the V, but to me it still isn't a HONDA!!! I would trade the Vee tomorrow for the Honda Varadero if it came here.
I am 315 and have ridden some two up and it is fine. We were over the weight limit some, but still rode good. My factor oof the heat is this: if it's over 85 its hot no matter which bike you are riding!! The ST is GREAT for twisty roads and loooooong distance cruising with ease!!! It was fun, and after 86k on both the ST1100's and ST1300's I would go back to one tomorrow if I wanted that type of riding once again.
 

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as you may know HEAT is always an issue with any full fairing bike = My "06 Connie feels like a heat gun on my right foot almost as bad on the left. BUT = I live in the Fl. Keys where a little heat means alot. I'll take my DL1000 over any full fairing bike.
 

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Yeah, the guy backed out anyway.... :thumbdown:
 

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keep it.

I have an FJR and it is similar to the ST. Top heavy pig and you will feel the difference aroung town. I just don't want to hop on the FJR. I always get on the wee. The wee and vee motor is so skinny if feels way better like you are riding a skinny goat instead of a fat mule spreading your legs. FJR is a blow torch and I heard the ST has heat issues also. The feej handles fine if your rolling good but slow down and you better be flat footed when negotiating parking lots coming to a stop because you make on wrong or slip of the foot and she going down. IMO I would only consider a Connie or ST if I was doing ONLY long hauls and I would have to farkle up the seat and pull back. That's another thing. Those big bikes have a big long tank and even with a pull back set of bars you are much further away than the wee. I measured 4 more inches on FJR. If you are tall and have long arms that might not be an issue. I do have an iron butt friend who had one for a year and rode 38k miles..........but he had it modified to suit him because the ergo's didn't work. I think I would try the Connie if I had an urge to get a bigger bike. Good luck with your hunt.
 

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Talking to a guy about trading my 2008 Vee for a 2005 Honda ST1300. Any thoughts? I know Clem has one that he loves.

I'm wondering how the Honda is riding two-up. Big Mama and me ain't exactly small and it gets tight on the Vee after a while...
I've ridden one several times and they are very smooth...

..but.

They are also very HOT! your legs will feel like they're in a sauna down there in Fla.
 

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I am a snowbird and spend spring,summer and fall in British Columbia and the winter in Tucson,Az. In BC I have both an ST1300 and a DRZ400S. I have had the ST for 5 years now and have to say that it is by far my favorite ride for any trip longer than a few hours. Sure it is heavy but it is stable, comfortable and I have never experienced any significant heat issues. I have ridden it for 9 hours a day for 4 and 5 day trips and never had an issue. Bottom line is I love the bike.

Now a fair question is why do I have a Vee in Tucson if I like the ST so much. Simple. Here in the desert I was constantly coming across interesting roads that went from paved to dirt or gravel and I was looking for a one bike solution. The Vee is perfect for my needs here. I rarely do multiday trips here (Tucson) and find the Vee works great for me both on pavement and off, but if I had to pick one road bike for highway travel I would go with the ST.
 

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I have an ST1100 with 106,000 mi. I love the bike, and probably the next MC I buy will be an ST1300 to replace it.

They are pig heavy, and you don't want to pick it up alone, but once it's rolling it is a thing of beauty. It's bigger in the cabin (a little) than the Vee, and it really is made for high mileage days.

I have both (and a 1200 Bandit), and don't look at them as competing much. If I need to go over 500 miles I'll take the ST. If I need to go get a ticket, I'll take the Bandit. If I need to go, I'll take the Vee:)

YMMV
"If I need to go over 500 miles I'll take the ST. If I need to go get a ticket, I'll take the Bandit. If I need to go, I'll take the Vee:)"

That's funny. Well said.
 

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I agree with pete in posting #3. I had an 05 st1300 nonabs and a vee at the same time and found myself riding the vee more often, but boy that st is smooth and the full fairing and electric shield is nice, sold the st and never looked back
 

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Hope this helps

You may not believe me but i had a o3 goldwing ,it railed btter than a st 1300 ,,get one with out abs ,the standard intergrated brakes ones rocks ,its bigger bike but if you 2 want to go on long trips,its th bomb ,loved mine thru the red woods and up crater lake at 115 mph fully loaded was no problem.1800 miles in four days ,went to see race at lagoona seca .it was in that heat wave of 06 .cars over heated all over ,it was a 111 f out of san fran ,and a cop on a st 1300 over heated with the 11 cars up the pass ,i laughed .i did see highr temps than ever b4 to but the fans kept her ok, i have rode a st1300, to top heavy ..but now we ride my vstrom ,had to sell wing ,for morgage money .and my wife rides her own bike now .but i put a raising link in rear and we have loaded down and had good trips on it .hope that helps .
 

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I have owned 5 ST1100's & 1 ST13. Wonderful wonderful bikes. Sold the 13 with 62K on it ran like a Top. Heat YES, I see you live in Florida take head of the heat issue. High speed instability yes over 125 it moves around a bit. But you really don't spend much time about 125. It's just not a healthy thing to do. If it's for you and Momma Get a 1800 wing. I have one w/71 on the clock & no heat or stability issue. And it's a Honda thru & thru a real QUALITY piece. They dont break. Buy an 01 or 02 from a old guy in florida. Lots of pickings & miles mean nothing.
 

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If it's for you and Momma Get a 1800 wing. I have one w/71 on the clock & no heat or stability issue.
Rick,

I guess you'll have to move across the Bay if you do.
 

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:hurray:

Bought a 2004 ST1300ABS with 6,800 miles on it today for $6,350... What a sweet deal!




Anyone want to buy a 2008 Vee with 17k miles on it? $6,500.
 

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Congrats, Only ONE year it was made in blue. I have no heat issues, as everyone claims. You have to learn how to not squeeze the fairing with your knees, and let the air flow between. It's a totally different ride then the v strom. Very Smooth.

Clem
 
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