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Been lurking around here for a few months now. I really think that the V-Strom suites my needs/riding preferences. The question is, which one. There is a shop here in town that rents a Vee. I am going to try to rent if for two days and put it through it's paces. I intend to ride some twisties, slab and gravel roads so I should get a good feeling of how each handles.

Having said all of this, I have been focusing on buying the Wee. Why? Well, gas mileage and off road abilities. As you can see from my sig, I have quite an assortment of dirt bikes, so I can scratch that itch accordingly. I would like the ability to run fire roads, etc in efforts to get from one section of pavement to the other and of course, just for the scenery. I'm pretty sure the Vee would be able to handle those without issue. However, doing so requires a lot of low speed riding. How does the Vee handle 20-30 mph cruising on fire roads, etc? Can you set in in an appropriate gear (2 or 3) and pretty much let it go, or does it constantly need to be shifted because it wants to run at a high speed? I am assuming that the Wee would find those conditions much more to it's liking.

My question is, if after renting the Vee and assuming that I liked it as much as I am hoping, I end up buying a Wee, will I be disappointed? Any tips on thinks to look for or try during my rental that will help in my decision process?

Thanks in advance!
 

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Wee sounds like a superior choice for your intended use....I've owned both, just my opinion.
 

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My Wee is my first bike so you can take my thoughts with a grain of salt.

I think you will love the wee, playing around/ breaking in the engine I go to 35/40 mph in first gear (About 7K rpms) and then hit second and at 55 jumped through the gears to stay at that speed. I don't think you will be disappointed in the performance I sure am not. She gots the get up and go and is happy cruising with the cages and cruisers.
 

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Thanks guys. I wish I could rent/ride both. I've made my reservations for next Thursday for two days. Looking forward to it!
 

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Given the bikes that you have, as long as you're not planning on riding 2-up with 700lbs of luggage, I doubt you'd feel disappointed with the Wee.

Seems that the Vee is a boon for those who ride 2-up and really love them some powerful bikes. But aside from that, I don't think anyone considers the Wee to be a step down in any other way, and you've got plenty of small-displacement bikes.. :)
 

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Interesting dilemma. As similar as these bikes are, they are worlds apart. I think the only thing you will glean from riding a Vee will be how you handle the seat height, although the Vee is 1" higher, and the wind noise / buffeting. Other than that they are different bikes. They weigh differently, they run differently, they sound differently, they handle differently, they do the slab and off road differently.

I'm not advocating one over the other, but you will come away from the Vee with an opinion, either good or bad, which may not equate to your perceptions of how the Wee will be. That is to say, the Wee may be much better, or worse than you thought it would be based on your Vee experience.

It sounds like you are set on a Wee, and that is OK. I would look harder to find one to try before you buy. Then you know what you are getting into with no doubts.
 

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Interesting dilemma. As similar as these bikes are, they are worlds apart. I think the only thing you will glean from riding a Vee will be how you handle the seat height, although the Vee is 1" higher, and the wind noise / buffeting. Other than that they are different bikes. They weigh differently, they run differently, they sound differently, they handle differently, they do the slab and off road differently.

I'm not advocating one over the other, but you will come away from the Vee with an opinion, either good or bad, which may not equate to your perceptions of how the Wee will be. That is to say, the Wee may be much better, or worse than you thought it would be based on your Vee experience.

It sounds like you are set on a Wee, and that is OK. I would look harder to find one to try before you buy. Then you know what you are getting into with no doubts.
Thank you! That is exactly my concern. I've read a lot that they are basically the same bike with one being a little heavier and the other having smoother power etc. I guess first and foremost, and am interested to see how the bike feels. I am assuming that this will not differ too greatly from one to the other (seating position, etc). I have never ridden a twin, so I am curious to see how that feels. I had an FZ1 prior to the DRZ and just was never comfortable on it. I'm a big guy (6' 3" 250) so the seat height isn't a concern but the buffeting could be. Again, I am assuming that the isn't a great deal of difference between the two bikes.

As indicated, I was hoping to rent the bigger one and have a good idea of what the little one is like minus a few extra squirrels. I wanted to make sure that if I turned around and bought a wee, I wouldn't :jawdrop:. It sounds like the only thing to do for sure is ride both. I'll check one off next weekend.
 

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I rode a DL1000 first on a bumpy, twisty back road, a dirt road, and a highway. Highway was very good, other two I disliked. I had to be cajoled into trying a Dl650, and I'm on my second.

So the problem may be the reverse.
 

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I'm a long-time big cruiser rider so no offroad vet, but love heading off into the boonies. Scared myself doing that on the Strat, so got my Wee 2K miles ago.
Did 200 miles of fire trails in WVA last weekend, including substantial time on big rocks in the rain, on steep up & down slopes. I realized on one 3 mile stretch that I was in waaay over my head, but turning around & going back down would not have been better. Bottomed out hard a few times (now I know to take off the centerstand, that's what kept hitting - not a scratch on the skid plate). Between that, 6 major creek crossings, & highway stretches to get there & back, I could wish for nothing more from the bike. 2nd gear will do for just about anything. I did not understand "flickability" before this bike! Also like my new Shinko 705s.
I'm 6/1 215 so also not a little guy. Do not get overly excited about the Vee until you Wee.
Ride safe, Buckee
 

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I'm a long-time big cruiser rider so no offroad vet, but love heading off into the boonies. Scared myself doing that on the Strat, so got my Wee 2K miles ago.
Did 200 miles of fire trails in WVA last weekend, including substantial time on big rocks in the rain, on steep up & down slopes. I realized on one 3 mile stretch that I was in waaay over my head, but turning around & going back down would not have been better. Bottomed out hard a few times (now I know to take off the centerstand, that's what kept hitting - not a scratch on the skid plate). Between that, 6 major creek crossings, & highway stretches to get there & back, I could wish for nothing more from the bike. 2nd gear will do for just about anything. I did not understand "flickability" before this bike! Also like my new Shinko 705s.
I'm 6/1 215 so also not a little guy. Do not get overly excited about the Vee until you Wee.
Ride safe, Buckee

Good stuff! Thanks! When I got back into riding off road several years ago, I friend convinced me to buy a Honda XR600. Knowing that I was a big buy, I would want the extra umph. Well, that extra umph came at a price. The thing weighed a ton. That's why they call them Big Red Pigs. Well, that thing handled like a bull in a china shop. I tried to take a bike that was meant to run the Baja at 100 mph and turn it into a single track bike. I sold it and bought the YZ250. What an amazing bike. Super light and tons of power once you learn how to use it.

I have always enjoyed riding off road more than on anyway. My thoughts are that if I hit a tree, it's my fault. They don't tend to jump out at you. I know that a Vee will just put me back into the bull in a china shop mode again.
 

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I have both.

I have a lot of woods/trail/path riding experience.

Neither are good for the above. They might be able to get you from point A to point B in true off road conditions. While the difference in weight is noticeable at slow speeds, it is my opinion that the power delivery of the Wee is far more useable at slow speeds and low rpms. Couple that with the very tall gearing of the Vee ( yes you can change that ) and the Wee comes out the "winner" in tight, rough, slick conditions every time. If your purpose for the new bike is not so much the rough stuff ( you have plenty other choices it seems ) then the decision is tougher. Once up to speed the difference in weight and throttle response is not as apparent. 1st and 2nd gear in dirt and gravel is automatic wheel spin in the vee. 3rd is wheelspin most of the time. The power is addictive. Out on paved roads the Vee has excess power when ever you want it. The Wee has all the power you need, you just have to ask for it. Both are very good pavement machines for long rides when set up properly. Buffeting is about the same on both, the taller stock seat on the Vee will have the air hitting you differently. If you are tall you will want the taller seat anyway and they are interchangeable. If fuel mileage is a concern or factor the Wee wins hands down. By 10+ miles per gallon.

Testing the Vee is good but won't answer all the questions you really have. You cannot go wrong with choosing the Wee. There are more of them and I think the resell market is much better should you decide to move up later on.
 
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