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I'm so used to people flashing their lights at me I never take it as a warning that there's a cop ahead.

Well that was the case today. Riding one of the few roads in FL that has some curves. Big, long sweepers. Speed limit is 45. Should be 55. Easily. Anyway, I came around the end of a sweeper & there he was...sitting and waiting. I was doing 62. A car in front of me was doing the same & I wasn't gaining any ground so I kept at that speed right on past him. When he stopped me, after the usual questions he asked me why I didn't slow down even when he was behind me. I told him the same thing I always tell cops in this scenario. "Honestly officer, I didn't realize I was speeding because it didn't feel like it & the distance to the car in front of me stayed the same. I never even looked at my speedometer".

Yeah it's a lie, but I've been stopped for speeding half a dozen times on a bike. Every time it has resulted in a warning. Including today! :thumbup:

Yeah, someday they may get me, but I'd rather this way than immediately hitting the brake & letting off the throttle. That's a flat-out admission of guilt right there!

So other than that, I'm very happy with the modulator. I never had one before & there was one on this bike when I bought it so I decided to start using it. I've had this bike for 3 or 4 months now and not one person has pulled out in front of me...NOT ONE! It's amazing!

Yeah, some people don't like them. I get flipped off, I get people flashing their lights at me, I get people simulating flashing with their hands, etc...but the bottom line is no one pulling out in front of me.

An annoyance is temporary...death is forever.
 
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Still hate them and always will, don't rely on them too much as they are still false sense of security......and annoying to the rest of us. Sorry if I come across as a jerk, but not many fans of them here on the forum.
 

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I too am a hater. :yesnod:
 

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Still hate them and always will, don't rely on them too much as they are still false sense of security......and annoying to the rest of us. Sorry if I come across as a jerk, but not many fans of them here on the forum.
No worries. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I didn't care for them either. But now that I have one & have tried it & have experienced great results with it I love it.

I don't buy into the false sense of security, because as with any protective equipment, gear or what have you, you still have to pay attention to what's going on. You could have the absolute best helmet on the market, go airborne & hit a tree, severing your spine in two...instant kill. Was the helmet a false sense of security or was it a piece of equipment designed for a specific purpose, but it's purpose didn't come into play in this instance?

I never stated that I stopped paying attention to cars in front of me attempting to pull onto the roadway...just that they have stopped pulling out in front of me. So far. It's pretty hard to miss that flashing light.

I don't use the modulator in group rides if I'm not leading the way. A large pack of bikes is difficult to miss, so there's some safety in numbers. No reason to have it on in that scenario.

As for annoying cagers with it...well, I know they're seeing me and as I stated before, annoyance is temporary but death is permanent.

I am in no way being confrontational with you or anyone else here. Just stating my opinion. I have had great results with it & will continue to use it.

Safe riding!
 
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Around here, flashing your lights is a courtesy signal for people to pull out in front of you. Courtesy is something something I have found to be in short supply on the streets of Fort Pierce, Florida so you probably don't have to worry too much. (ever go to Archie's?)

Without interviewing the turning drivers whom I appear to have stopped in their tracks, there is no way to know if it was the weaving, for which I have a tendency, or if the typical visual information of a motorcycle front profile did it. Likewise with you, Mr. 4life, you have no way of knowing that you haven't just been lucky, or perhaps taking greater notice in the cautious drivers around you or subconsciously being a little more cautious yourself after making your investment in safety, eh?

I'd like to see some empirical data on the effectiveness of modulators against forms of more active conspicuity. There may be a situation where they are particularly effective, like hi-vis in the rain, but even after much ponderment I have yet to settle upon on.

I think broadening your forward profile with widely spaced running lights is more effective passive approach in giving oncoming traffic accurate spacial information. Think of the triple lights of the larger Harleys, for example. It allows for looming, where a single light point does not, its just a glaring orb, which with a modulator, is just a flashing glaring orb.

At any rate, when I see a modulator I am now conditioned to think, in descending order: "bumpy road, motorcycle, courtesy flash, first generation DL1000 with fueling issues".

Also Mr. 4life, I don't see how your thread title is relevant. Did the cop mention that he pulled you over because of your modulator?

Does your insurance company know that you are on this site?

Best of luck.
 

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Around here, flashing your lights is a courtesy signal for people to pull out in front of you. Courtesy is something something I have found to be in short supply on the streets of Fort Pierce, Florida so you probably don't have to worry too much. (ever go to Archie's?)

Without interviewing the turning drivers whom I appear to have stopped in their tracks, there is no way to know if it was the weaving, for which I have a tendency, or if the typical visual information of a motorcycle front profile did it. Likewise with you, Mr. 4life, you have no way of knowing that you haven't just been lucky, or perhaps taking greater notice in the cautious drivers around you or subconsciously being a little more cautious yourself after making your investment in safety, eh?

I'd like to see some empirical data on the effectiveness of modulators against forms of more active conspicuity. There may be a situation where they are particularly effective, like hi-vis in the rain, but even after much ponderment I have yet to settle upon on.

I think broadening your forward profile with widely spaced running lights is more effective passive approach in giving oncoming traffic accurate spacial information. Think of the triple lights of the larger Harleys, for example. It allows for looming, where a single light point does not, its just a glaring orb, which with a modulator, is just a flashing glaring orb.

At any rate, when I see a modulator I am now conditioned to think, in descending order: "bumpy road, motorcycle, courtesy flash, first generation DL1000 with fueling issues".

Also Mr. 4life, I don't see how your thread title is relevant. Did the cop mention that he pulled you over because of your modulator?

Does your insurance company know that you are on this site?

Best of luck.
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I think the only way there would be emperical data is if someone chooses to study such a thhing. I'm not sure if there is a study out there or not. I can only speak from my personal experience. On my cruiser, which had 3 lights, people pulled in front of me but on this bike with the modulator they don't. Could be luck, could be the modulator, could be a combination of the two. My inclination is to believe it's the latter.


The thread title is relevant because someone gave me the cop warning flash but I ignored it because I thought they were flashing me due to the modulator.

I did not notify my insurance company I'm here because I didn't see that clause in the TOS. Should I call them? Will I get in trouble if I don't?

I live 10 minutes from Archie's. Been there a few times, but I prefer Earl's Hideaway in Sebastion. Better view & better bands. Much better bands!

Lastly, a word of caution...The Illinois enema bandit
I heard he's on the loose - FZ :yikes:
 

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Better view & better bands. Much better bands!

Lastly, a word of caution...The Illinois enema bandit
I heard he's on the loose - FZ :yikes:
He just be pumpin' every one of 'em up with all the bag
Fulla the illinois enema bandit juice


Well, if you use that as a yardstic to measure bands, I'll have to get to Sebastian.

We have some good friends who live a mile south of Archies.

They drop us off there, and we stumble back.
 

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I have never had a headlamp modulator,

But I have been on a ride where the lead rider had a headlamp modulator with a high kelvin headlamp (bluish tint)

the flashing lamp was obviously mistaken for a LEO by people that were pulling over for us

but after we passed one pulled over car and the driver realized it was not a LEO, he became enraged and speed up and tried running us off the road

no thank you, they have the potential to encite road rage, I have seen it first hand

I will never have one nor will I ever ride with anyone or with a group where someone has one ever again

it may have been that it was also a bluish tine headlamp, but I won't take the chance ever again



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Around here, flashing your lights is a courtesy signal for people to pull out in front of you.
I have never felt the need for one, but my Vulcan had a modulator installed when I got it. I doubt anyone would mistake the pulsing for a signal to proceed, since the frequency is greater than anyone could produce manually with their headlight control. It actually looks like an electrical problem related to engine rpm.

That's not a bad thing, BTW. I'm sure a lot of people notice it and think, "What the f#%k is wrong with that guy's bike?"
 

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I'm with you, Randy. I had one for awhile and got rid of it precisely because they piss people off. They try to kill you even without one, no sense in upping the ante.

I have never had a headlamp modulator,

But I have been on a ride where the lead rider had a headlamp modulator with a high kelvin headlamp (bluish tint)

the flashing lamp was obviously mistaken for a LEO by people that were pulling over for us

but after we passed one pulled over car and the driver realized it was not a LEO, he became enraged and speed up and tried running us off the road

no thank you, they have the potential to encite road rage, I have seen it first hand

I will never have one nor will I ever ride with anyone or with a group where someone has one ever again

it may have been that it was also a bluish tine headlamp, but I won't take the chance ever again
 

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They try to kill you even without one, no sense in upping the ante.
If they want to kill you anyways, why not give them a reason?
 

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This is interesting, I'm not sure which side I should be on.

Here is Southern California I use my headlight modulator when splitting lanes on the freeways and find it tremendously successful. I can often see the light reflections pulsing on cars ahead of me so cages not watching their mirrors still notice my presence to one degree or the other. I have yet to have anyone threaten me on the freeway for this.

Note, once I get back into the flow of traffic I turn them off because as so many have noted they can be annoying and why poke a stick in the eye of the fellow driving ahead of you? I think running with them on as a general rule is rude and counter productive.

I should note I run regular lamps, not the cool blue ones and weat a hi-viz helmet so I doubt anyone will mistake me for a LEO.

Within seconds of them noticing the lights I am past any given driver so any annoyance is momentary.
 

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He just be pumpin' every one of 'em up with all the bag
Fulla the illinois enema bandit juice


Well, if you use that as a yardstic to measure bands, I'll have to get to Sebastian.

We have some good friends who live a mile south of Archies.

They drop us off there, and we stumble back.
Well you won't find anything like Zappa there, but they do get some very good funk, blues, R&B and blues/rock bands there.

Send me a PM next time you'll be in the area. We can do a meet & greet. Then I can ride behind you with the light flashing as you stumble home.
 

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I have never had a headlamp modulator,

But I have been on a ride where the lead rider had a headlamp modulator with a high kelvin headlamp (bluish tint)

the flashing lamp was obviously mistaken for a LEO by people that were pulling over for us

but after we passed one pulled over car and the driver realized it was not a LEO, he became enraged and speed up and tried running us off the road

no thank you, they have the potential to encite road rage, I have seen it first hand

I will never have one nor will I ever ride with anyone or with a group where someone has one ever again

it may have been that it was also a bluish tine headlamp, but I won't take the chance ever again
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Never had one, never will. If I buy a bike that has one I'll rip it out.

I rode a friend's bike to work one day and it had one of those damn headlight modulators on it. My office is 8.5 miles from home so a 17 mile round trip. During those 17 miles THREE people pulled out in front of me at 4-way stop intersections. I finally figured out that they though I was flashing for them to go ahead. I rode it to work the next day and turned that stinking modulator off. Same intersections, no problems.

No thanks. Not even if someone paid me.
 

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I was a paramedic for ten years in Toronto.
I can tell you that people around you do some pretty stupid things when you are lit up.
Obviously they have their place on an emergency vehicle and great care must be taken when utilizing "lights and siren".
I, personally would never have a modulator on my bike.
No way....no how!
 

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Never had one, never will. If I buy a bike that has one I'll rip it out.

I rode a friend's bike to work one day and it had one of those damn headlight modulators on it. My office is 8.5 miles from home so a 17 mile round trip. During those 17 miles THREE people pulled out in front of me at 4-way stop intersections. I finally figured out that they though I was flashing for them to go ahead. I rode it to work the next day and turned that stinking modulator off. Same intersections, no problems.

No thanks. Not even if someone paid me.
Maybe it was opposite day?

I was a paramedic for ten years in Toronto.
I can tell you that people around you do some pretty stupid things when you are lit up.
Obviously they have their place on an emergency vehicle and great care must be taken when utilizing "lights and siren".
I, personally would never have a modulator on my bike.
No way....no how!
Isn't freedom of choice great? :thumbup:
 

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Freedom of choice IS a good thing especially if it is an informed decision.
Weigh the pro's and con's.
I did. I've read about these things for years. This is by far the most hostile to modulator forums I've been on...but I did not know that before starting this thread. Don't regret it though. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And so far no one is forcing an opinion on anyone else...either way. That's a healthy dialogue right there!

Anyway, I've been riding on the road since 1987 so I don't typically rush into decisions like this. So far my experience has been very positive so I'm gonna keep doing what I'm doing. :)
 
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