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One thing that really grinds my gears is how all motorcycle manufacturers claim to have great tank range. Even if their bike had a 2.5 gallon tank they would still claim it has more than enough for long weekend excursions. I'm not sure how other people feel above this, personally the Strom meets my basic criteria. With a practically guaranteed 220 miles and a shot at 250 I'm okay with it. With that said I really miss the possibility of 300 miles with my GSA, but the Strom will do. I'm thinking about putting a 5 gallon aux tank on the back, but I need to do more research on feasibility. I commute 100 miles per day and do long trips, so tank range means a lot to me. Is anyone else wishing bikes had better efficiency ( NC750) or bigger tanks (5+ gallons). Thanks for reading.
 

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I think you have a 5+ gallon tank?

But I do agree with your thoughts about range. I struggle to get 200 miles per tank on the 650 when on the road running pretty good speeds. I don't run till the warning light comes on if I can help it either. I get 240-250 on the RT and that is about right as I am ready for a break at that time.

Especially now that most manufacturers are posting listed weights WITH a full tank of fuel, they are going to carefully consider tank size. So there are few with much over 5 gallons out there.

An auxiliary fuel tank is a LOT of work. I might consider a 2 gallon spare to carry just in case I got lost and couldn't find fuel out west or something. But till then I will just plan my fuel stops. I have too much gear to carry to add a 5 gallon fuel tank to all of that stuff!
 

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One of the main reasons I bought a 2018 CB500x is the mpg and range. People getting 300+.
 

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The Strom is over 5, I don't hesitate to do 220, so it's okay. And yes the CB500 is awesome.My wife rented one and it had plenty of range to ride with me on an Africa Twin adventure sports, and wasn't completely lacking for power either.
 

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Strombo…

I have a ’19, front tooth: 16. Can’t speak for anyone else on range or mpg but can honestly say I “average” never lower than mid 50’s – at the pump – consistently. Frequently a bit higher than that with the occasional 60 mpg. That gives me a very realistic 250 mi range.

The other “range” – and the one I personally have to deal with is the “hour” range. Yeah, I’m older. So, about 3 hrs or so and I’m ready for a break. That break will include gas, water/coffee and a 15 minute time-out.

So, my Wee serves my riding very well. If I want to go farther on a tank – like I probably will Spring 2020 - I’ll have to work on my hour range issues first.

Good thread.

Just my .02.

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....to be useful for comparative data, average speed is needed... road type (interstate, country, etc) helps as well....

interstate cruising @ ~80 gives me about 200 miles...
 

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All I was really complaining about was how there are a few bikes with decent range, definitely including the wee, but overall motorcyclists don't have too much to choose from. The tigers aren't great, KTM doesn't really make anything with good tank range. Heck even most of the sport tourers don't do great with tank range. And I think it mainly comes down to efficiency. Maybe in 2005 45 mpg for a midsize bike was okay. But now in 2019 with some affordable hybrids you can get even better gas mileage with a car. Granted I don't ride for economic benefits. I commute almost 2 hours round trip a day, so riding is way more enjoyable than driving. That being said being able to save a few pennies on gas would be nice.
 

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Heck even most of the sport tourers don't do great with tank range.
Check out a Honda ST1300. Yes, out of production, but they carry 7.2 gallons and get 450+mpg. They are a bargain nowadays - its a buyer's market. If you are considering the aux. tank, check out the Iron Butt website and look around for a used one. They come up for sale every now and then.
 

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Heck even most of the sport tourers don't do great with tank range.
Check out a Honda ST1300. Yes, out of production, but they carry 7.2 gallons and get 450+mpg. They are a bargain nowadays - its a buyer's market. If you are considering the aux. tank, check out the Iron Butt website and look around for a used one. They come up for sale every now and then.
"450+mpg"? Wow. I definitely want one!
 

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Heck even most of the sport tourers don't do great with tank range.
Check out a Honda ST1300. Yes, out of production, but they carry 7.2 gallons and get 450+mpg. They are a bargain nowadays - its a buyer's market. If you are considering the aux. tank, check out the Iron Butt website and look around for a used one. They come up for sale every now and then.
Not that you are wrong. I have no personal experience with the ST1300, but fuelly only shows people getting 42-43. Now most people don't ride for efficiency, and you put that much power in someone's hands and they tend to ride the opposite. All that being put together I'm still struggling to see 450 miles on a tank, it might be GSA territory of 300+. Or maybe I need to pull my head out of my rear and start looking. Or maybe you are saying 45 mpg to get a solid 309 miles per tank, which is GSA territory. There are always exceptions, it's just I personally think tank ranges are too small on most motorcycles.
 

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In a society full of high tech computers that are out of date the moment they hit the shelves, why isn't there a remedy to solve the problems of extending the rang ? Is the system rigged or are we truly stuck with 300+/- miles being the max? I know on paper my 14 Vee says it's a 5 gallon tank, but I've never been able to put more than just over 4 in it when bone dry.
 

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...I know on paper my 14 Vee says it's a 5 gallon tank, but I've never been able to put more than just over 4 in it when bone dry.
On my 2015 DL1000 I've put in over 20 liters at least a couple of times and over 19 liters several times.

For reference:

20 liter = 5.28 US gal
19 liter = 5.02 US gal

..Tom
 

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Slow down then :). 70-90kph range is amazing.

I've managed 600k's a tank on the 650 and it will match a GSA for range offroad. On road I get similar mpg, but the 30l tank on the GSA wins there.

I can understand freeways being an issue, but seriously the aero on either DL is like a brick held sideways, it will punish you at speed.

I agree generally on the tank size thing though, even with plastic panels as now there's room to push the DL's tanks out further and get another 4-5l in without changing the lines.
 

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Yah, do away with the plastic and gimme tank volume. Mo is Mo Bettah.
The old Triumph Tiger had a bulbous tank that acted as a fairing for the knees.
I'm always stopping when the light comes on but find that I still have more than a gallon left.
I'll have to start using that Kolpin gas can for the peace of mind when traveling.
Of course, if I wasn't trying to go 75 into a headwind, I could go further between stops. :surprise:
 

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EV motorcycles and we have a similar discussion <img src="http://www.stromtrooper.com/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Very Happy" class="inlineimg" />
I applaud Zero, but I feel they have really stagnated. I was quite disappointed by their ADV bike released earlier this year. There is no way I would take it on an adventure. Also for the price of a wee I get an electric bike that might be able to go 60 miles in the city. I'd love to see it progress, and maybe I'm hoping for too much, but it's just not there yet.
 

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On my 2015 DL1000 I've put in over 20 liters at least a couple of times and over 19 liters several times.

For reference:

20 liter = 5.28 US gal
19 liter = 5.02 US gal

..Tom
Riding my age, I can get to just over 300mi/483km, but I don't like to run the range indicator into the single digits. I have hit the magic 5 gal.US/19L fill once. Riding young at heart, she's down around the mid-200mi/~300km range.⛽
 
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