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I have a pair of Joe Rocket Alter Ego 2.0 pants that actually fit me pretty well, which is no small feat, as I typically wear a 34-36 inch waist and 36 length in jeans/slacks. They come in tall sizes, and are actually long enough. However, the knee armor, even in its lowest position, sits on top of my knee/thigh when sitting on the V-Strom. I have long thighs in proportion to my lower legs. Because of this, I either don't use the armor when wearing them over my work clothes to commute, or if riding on the weekends and wearing them as riding pants, I wear motocross knee/shin guards underneath instead.

Seems like a tailor should be able to modify the pants such that I could put some d30 or similar armor (or the Joe Rocket CE armor they came with) further down the leg, maybe by stitching in some velcro panels lower down the interior of the pant leg.

Has anyone had their riding pants modified in this fashion? Is it a fairly simple thing to have done?
 

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I've thought about using the knee/shin guards commuting as well, and just wear them over my pants (usually jeans, as work dress is casual), but the exposed velcro on the leg straps snags the mesh liner in the overpants. Need to get cloth strips to cover that up. Mainly I was looking for an option for the commuting situation, that would allow me to just use the knee armor in the pants for less hassle.

But like you said, the motocross guards are the best for guaranteeing stuff is in the right place when you hit the ground...
 

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Honestly. You are doing it right.
Knee armor/padding are a joke.
You fall off. They move around.
I always wear my Knox shin/knee guards strapped to my legs. I took all the padding out of my riding pants.
As for the commuting. Just use the knee guards over top of your work clothes if they don't fit underneath.
Then put the alter - ego pants on over top.
 

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I don't understand why any of the manufacturers haven't devised a system, either external or internal, to allow you to snug down the knee armor in the pants to your knees. Seems doable. On the jackets, some have straps above and below the elbow that effectively accomplish this. But none of the pants seem to have that. If you want the knee armor to stay in place you have to use pants that fit much more closely to your legs, like leathers.
 

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Have used the arborwear pants with knee pads for years, pads ride in proper position/alignment, and i can state they work after an intersection collide with a cages' quarter panel.
 

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I don't understand why any of the manufacturers haven't devised a system, either external or internal, to allow you to snug down the knee armor in the pants to your knees. Seems doable. On the jackets, some have straps above and below the elbow that effectively accomplish this. But none of the pants seem to have that. If you want the knee armor to stay in place you have to use pants that fit much more closely to your legs, like leathers.
I often wondered about that too - i suppose it comes down to convenience vs protection; aesthetics vs proper fitment (in relation to the strap idea).

Bear in mind that many accidents have one impact - the initial one- so the argument might be as long as the protector protects on the initial impact - it did its job. Of course after sliding and armours moving around - you might have a secondary impact which is where closer fitted armour would work out better. I would argue however even with straps, you might have the armour can still move around under those circumstances.

If you are going to sew a pockets for armour- have a look at BMW NP armour - best coverage i have seen on any armour and very well made, and dont cost more than a decent set from other respected manufacturers. If you are looking at D30, i would argue their standard range is crap - i have seen their "pro" (?) range which is suppose to be better.
 

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I've looked at those and want to give them a try, or the Forcefield variety, but for commuting to work they aren't really practical. I'm not going to wear them all day in the office, which means I'd have to take them off when I get there and put them back on before I leave, which is too much hassle.

I think some kind of cinch straps around the knees in the pants to at least make sure the armor was in the right place on initial impact would be a welcome addition to most manufacturers' products. I'd pay extra for that, as I think it would be a legitimate safety upgrade. I agree that in a violent enough tumble, it's going to be hard to keep everything in place unless it's strapped tightly and directly to your limbs, but even for just the initial impact I'm skeptical armor in most riding pants would not move off the knee as you make your way from the bike to the pavement.
 

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yes, got arborwear pants from aerostitch, pull the pads from the knee sleeves and they're fine for casual wear after the days ride, washable/dryer friendly, unlike icon jeans with aramid reinforcement (ambient air dry on a hanger only).
 

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I prefer the MTB knee protectors, they fit well, are always in place and are comfortable.
The Kevlar in my jeans will handle abrasion, I just wanted a bit more impact protection. I have used MX style armour in the past - it works well, but after several hours it gets uncomfortable.

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It's funny you mention this HammerDown. I have the same exact problem with the same pants. It seems when Joe Rocket made the tall version of the pants, they just added a little length and did not think about moving the armor. Anyway, I have yet to come up with a solution. I don't want to strap on knee/shin guards every time I put my riding pants on. I will probably try to hand sew a lower pocket in the pants.
 

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With some of the pants I've seen (Aerostich, for example), there is a long strip of velcro, either vertically, or multiple pieces horizontally, sewn to the interior of the pants, and the armor goes inside a detachable pouch with a velcro strip on its back. Then, you can just move the pouch up or down on the velcro inside the pant leg as you need. I'm thinking this would be the best way to do the alteration, just sew velcro into the pant, and put velcro directly on the front of the armor, or make a separate pouch for it. Not sure how that will work with the Joe Rocket mesh lining though.
 
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