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I was passing thru a small country town -- on the way out -- speed limit was 35 mph. I cycle thru my mirrors and see a compact car coming up.

Finally, the car is camping on my butt and the teenage driver was close enough to use my rear view mirrors to put on her makeup. I tap the brakes enough to make the brake light go on but she does not budge. I come to a high speed turn off lane (a rarity), hit the right signal and slide into the turn lane. I was grateful she didn't follow.

Anyone got any novel ways of dealing with tail-gators?
 

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Try this...

I've been pretty successful in getting tailgaters to back off just by waving them back. Left hand, palm down, make a backwards pushing movement. When they back off, I wave a regular "thank you" wave to them.

90% of the time, this works. I think most people just don't realize how close they are, due to the much thinner profile of an m/c.
 
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I usually ride faster (not to be confused with speeding up) than the "vehicle" traffic, thus eliminating the tailgater factor.:mrgreen:

But that's just me.

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I usually ride faster (not to be confused with speeding up) than the "vehicle" traffic, thus eliminating the tailgater factor.:mrgreen:

But that's just me.

Matt


I'd love to do just that but I'd probably lose my license in a week. I'm an old man so staying within the limits is not too difficult anymore.

I must confess tho -- I'd love to pound the pavement in that western state with no daytime limits. Was that Wyoming or Montana that did this?
 

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I have found that most tailgaters will just stick to my fender the faster I go unless I really kick it into hyper speed. But even then when you settle back to normal cruising speed they invariably catch back up and assume the position again. I usually do everything I can to make it easy for them to get by since it is obvious that wherever they are going is far more important than my destination. :???: If allowing them to pass is not an option then I just stay extra alert and ready on the brakes and am constantly planning an escape route if i have to make a quick stop. As mentioned above, I have also had some success with the 'wave off'. I have also had this anger the driver for some crazy reason too.
Sometimes I even pray for a meteor to hit their car. :-D
 

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Sometimes I find a way to pull over and just let them pass.

If I am in a lot of traffic, I will try the wave.

Sometimes I will just slow way down and take a long look at them in the rear view mirror. If they don't get the message, I figure out a way to let them pass.

Also, I use a brake light that flashes for a few seconds before going solid. I will trigger that a few times. It seems to buy about 10 feet or so.

I hardly ever try and speed away from a tailgater.
 

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I'm not good enough on the bike to do this yet, but I did in my Miata many times.

Scene: 2 lane road, 15-20 over the posted limit, Dodge Ram Hemi 2 feet off the bumper. Enter sharp turn and don't even take the foot off the gas (GAWD, what a car that was!) Moments later, the truck is fighting to stay on the road, 200 yards back. Then, CLOUDS of diesel smoke as he catches up and passes me.

Point made!

But that was a lot less scary than a driver on the cell phone while putting on makeup on the tail of a MC. Guess the solutions above are better.
 

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I live in Orlando, FL where it's gamble trying to "alert" a tailgater. This is not a driver-friendly city and you never know who's on your ass. Drivers even use the long merge lanes to pass through traffic. What I do really depends on the traffic conditions. If you're blocking the lane and there's acres of space in front of you...escape or move out of the way. If you're in tight traffic...turn your head and focus on the driver behind. For some reason, it kind of wakes them up and most of the time they'll back off slightly.

One thing I try to avoid is tapping the brakes if it's going to look like I'm baiting the driver. That's something attributed to car drivers and they know a brake-check when they see it, and it pisses them off. They don't get it that no motorcyclist in their right mind would brake-check a car.

Keep in mind that what works in one part of the US, doesn't always work everywhere. In northern Virgina, I was surprised to find that drivers tailgate more frequently and when they use their turn signal, they will wait for an opening before changing lanes. Here in Orlando, if you even see a turn signal that means the guy is coming over *now* and you better not be in his way. The worst is that half-a-blink you get *after* they've already started coming over.
 

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I live in Orlando, FL where it's gamble trying to "alert" a tailgater. This is not a driver-friendly city and you never know who's on your ass. Drivers even use the long merge lanes to pass through traffic. What I do really depends on the traffic conditions. If you're blocking the lane and there's acres of space in front of you...escape or move out of the way. If you're in tight traffic...turn your head and focus on the driver behind. For some reason, it kind of wakes them up and most of the time they'll back off slightly.

One thing I try to avoid is tapping the brakes if it's going to look like I'm baiting the driver. That's something attributed to car drivers and they know a brake-check when they see it, and it pisses them off. They don't get it that no motorcyclist in their right mind would brake-check a car.

Keep in mind that what works in one part of the US, doesn't always work everywhere. In northern Virgina, I was surprised to find that drivers tailgate more frequently and when they use their turn signal, they will wait for an opening before changing lanes. Here in Orlando, if you even see a turn signal that means the guy is coming over *now* and you better not be in his way. The worst is that half-a-blink you get *after* they've already started coming over.

Wow, what a true assessment of the Orlando Florida cage operator. No I simply refuse to call them a driver, as that would show they possess some sort of skills. Most of them are in such a big rush to get ahead of you, they will do whatever it takes to do so. I must say this is the rudest crowd I have ever had to deal with.

I spent about 6 months driving 429, Turnpike and I-4 during my 50 miles commute into work. Never again, it simply is not worth it. So many roads simply turn into parking lots because the traffic is held up so they can watch someone change a tire on the shoulder of the road.

When confronted by a tailgater, I simply use the same signal as Scubadvr does. I find it works quite well. Of course you always have those persistent idiots that anything less than a tactital nuclear weapon will not get them to even see you, I simply move out of their way. It's a lot safer that way. If you speed up, they will speed up with you. If you ride either left or right of center, they might try and pull along side of you, so stay in the middle of the lane. You might want to add some distance between you and the vehicle in front of you. This way you have more room to manuver should you need to do so.

Thankfully no one has brought up the "throwing stuff" at them. In some states that is classified as "agrevated assault" and carries a heavy penalty.


 

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Weaving in the lane, and standing on your pegs usually get the attention of any tailgater. Try standing on your pegs, up and down. If that does not work, start a weave like if you were warming up your tires at the track. The weave is usually 99.9% effective. :)

Please do all this in a safe manner.
 
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Hyperlites...

Here's my .02. Here is Los Angeles there is no such thing as a 3 second stopping distance. If you provide one someone else will merge into it and you'll be back to bumper to bumper. I heretofore dealt with this through paranoia. Making sure that I knew where everyone was, and what they were doing at all times. I added the Hyperlite more on a whim than anything else, certain that I had thrown $70 bucks in the trash. About two days later (long enough to forget I had installed the lites) I was amazed at the two car length space between me and the car behind me. It took a few seconds to realize that it was because of the flashing LED's of the hyperlite. I'm now a believer. Touch the brake and watch 'em slow way down. Well worth the small amount of cash.
 

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FL strom nearly got my idea to get the tailgaters away from you. And it's not just my idea, I've been dooing this for years and it works.

Try this.
Even if you are not going to turn, put your signal on. It backs them off because they want to keep moving at their speed, not get caught right up behind you and then speed up again. They don't want to lose their momentum. Of course, you want to try this where it is safe and no one is waiting ahead to pull out in front of you. I usually do it on 2 lane roads where I know the area. If you do it twice, then they stay away because then they have no idea when you will be turning. It works for me.

Some friends of mine use washers and throw them up in the air, or ball bearings would do the trick.
 

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I got my idea to get the tailgaters away from you. And it's not just my idea, I've been doing this for years and it works.

Try this.
Even if you are not going to turn, put your signal on. It backs them off because they want to keep moving at their speed, not get caught right up behind you and then speed up again. They don't want to lose their momentum.
Of course, you want to try this where it is safe and no one is waiting ahead to pull out in front of you. I usually do it on 2 lane roads where I know the area. If you do it twice, then they stay away because then they have no idea when you will be turning. It works for me.

Some friends of mine use washers and throw them up in the air, or ball bearings would do the trick.
 

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You did the best thing

I was passing thru a small country town -- on the way out -- speed limit was 35 mph. I cycle thru my mirrors and see a compact car coming up.

Finally, the car is camping on my butt and the teenage driver was close enough to use my rear view mirrors to put on her makeup. I tap the brakes enough to make the brake light go on but she does not budge. I come to a high speed turn off lane (a rarity), hit the right signal and slide into the turn lane. I was grateful she didn't follow.

Anyone got any novel ways of dealing with tail-gators?
The best way to get out of potential trouble is not get in it in the first place. I know it is easy to lose your head, get mad and do something else, but really the best way is to avoid the sitution completely. You accomplished this by getting out of the way. I am constently amazed at the number of drivers that will not avoid a potential problem because they know they are in the right. Well, they may be in the right technically, but that will not tell the whole story on your grave marker. Better to live to fight another day I say.
 

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Weaving in the lane, and standing on your pegs usually get the attention of any tailgater. Try standing on your pegs, up and down. If that does not work, start a weave like if you were warming up your tires at the track. The weave is usually 99.9% effective. :)

Please do all this in a safe manner.
This is also what I do. Works almost all the time. They person behind you would think you're going to do something crazy. I just imagine that I'm weaving through cones.

Another option:

An acquaintance of mine used to live in TX. He said there would be "local idiots" that would try to get as close to you as possible for the fun of it. He's even had his rear tire rubbed ever so slightly. So he said that from then on if someone was trying to perfect their skills in this "sport" he would keep 1/2" ball bearings in his pocket and drop a couple on the asphalt, which of course would fly off like a bullet, usually piercing their radiator. Sounds a bit harsh, but if the person is a big enough jerk to be trying to use you as a target, I think it's fair. :)
 

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he would keep 1/2" ball bearings in his pocket and drop a couple on the asphalt, which of course would fly off like a bullet, usually piercing their radiator. Sounds a bit harsh, but if the person is a big enough jerk to be trying to use you as a target, I think it's fair. :)
Hmmm. I don't see how they would "fly off like a bullet". They would still be travelling forward at the same speed as you dropped it. Then they would hit the pavement and bounce/decelerate. So, they would actually impact the car behind at whatever the speed of that car was minus the forward speed of the ball bearing. Still, a 1/2 ball bearing would carry quite a whack. I don't know about the piercing a radiator part.

Anyway, good story. Personally, I don't think I will be pelting anyone with anything. Tempting, but I'll figure something else out.
 

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I have found the best thing to deter tailgaiters os a loose, threatening object strapped to your luggage rack

you want to secure something so that it won't fall off, but looks like it will and when it does, go right thru the windshield of the car tailgating

lately I been using my cane, it locks into my caribou rack but can slide forward & backward a couple feet, I tie a piece of surveyors flagging to make is very visible, when a car gets to close, I give it a nudge, as it pops out extending from the back, the tailgater backs right off

I'll take a pic tonite


obnoxiously loud pipes are somewhat effective in keeping tailgater at bay also



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Chewing Tobacco always cures the tailgating blues, if that doesn't cut it, ball bearings and hex nuts are soon to follow. May seem rude, but so is 99.9% of the northeast.
 

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Chewing Tobacco always cures the tailgating blues, if that doesn't cut it, ball bearings and hex nuts are soon to follow. May seem rude, but so is 99.9% of the northeast.
HMM. I like the tobacco idea. And, if you combined with the "loosely attached threatening object" mentioned in the prior post, you would could have a fully burdened spittoon barely balanced atop the trunk case!
 
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