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Anyone come from a 2014 Yamaha Super Ternere ES, own one now or planning on getting one.

After two years I still love my 2012 DL650 but;

- Hate to have to adjust, lube my chain while on longer rides

- Hate always being having to be on the pipe to stay up with others on the freeway

- On long rides I Lust after the ES real time cruise control .. told to be better than most cars ..

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Tell me how bad the Ternere is for slow speed parking, gas mileage, ergs for tall large riders, bad wind protection, near double the cost, anything to make me turn away from the light ....

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Tell me how bad the Ternere is for slow speed parking, gas mileage, ergs for tall large riders, bad wind protection, near double the cost, anything to make me turn away from the light ....
Too lazy to write all that...so here's a copy/paste: "how bad the Ternere is for slow speed parking, gas mileage, ergs for tall large riders, bad wind protection, near double the cost," :mrgreen:
 

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It's only money ... you'll make more. If you want the Yamaha, and those are some sound reasons to want it, buy it! Anything 1000cc+ is going to have worse fuel mileage than a Wee. Ergo's and wind protection can be adjusted to fit. Again, it's only money. Slow speed parking?? Really? That's your excuse?
 

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Aside from having a chain, why not look at the new Vee2? :fineprint: There are a few active Tenere threads on the forum right now, and pretty much all the questions you have asked have been discussed or brought up, might try checking them out.
 

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Having spent the better part of 25 years riding big, heavy motorcycles, I can tell you that moving "up" to the Super 10 will reward you with a lot more power, making life dealing with traffic a bit easier. Not to mention acceleration and a higher top end, if that is a concern or desire. Gas mileage will be in the low 40's, at best, depending on your riding style. Your right hand will determine that. Handling may be a bit heavier than with the Wee, and no doubt, you notice it to be a tad more top heavy. As to parking lot speeds, if you are a decent rider, and practice your low speed maneuvering, it shouldn't be an issue. I can't speak to rider ergs, but it appears to be a fairly roomy bike--about like the VStrom.

All in all, I don't think you would regret the move up. The Ten is a good bike and will serve you well. It's just money, and if you can afford it, take the leap. Just be sure to let us know how it works for you.
 

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Try to get a test ride. I was thinking about the ST and test rode one last year and didn't like it, test rode the new ES version this year and liked it better, but nowhere close enough to buy one. If YOU like it then figure out if you can deal with cost of ownership.
 

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Check out the other threads. I bought a new 2013 ST this spring. Not much changed in 14 but I do not have cruise....sigh.

I went from a 2007 Vee to the ST. I like it much better and I loved my Vee....just had more miles than I wanted on it (100,000).

The ST is a little shorter in the front seat area, but still comfy. I run the seat in low and my jewels are right up to the tank. Seat to foot pegs a little closer on the ST. Handle bars perfect...but I have long arms.

I ride long distances. My Vee took several mods to be comfortable and I could do long hours on it. The ST was correct for me right out of the box. No ergo mods at all....but I am still considering a custom seat.

The other questions are answered elsewhere.

I am still a huge original Vee fan, not so much a fan of the new vee. I am currently looking for a new gen wee.
 

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OTOH, chain maintenance isn't really that bad. I haven't ever adjusted a chain. They seem to not stretch too much until the end. Second, you are doing your trips all wrong; eliminate freeway riding and take the scenic route and/or tour solo. No need to keep up. Fit a cruise control. Done. Keep the Glee! I tried :mrgreen:
 

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Its a tricky thing that s10. If you NEED a bike with its capabilities, you'll appreciate it. Otherwise it might not really work well. I test rode one and was very excited before hand to finally try this thing. It was no more comfortable than my wee2, had a much more agricultural feel to it, wasnt smooth like the wee and wasnt as nimble as the wee. So in the end, for me and my commuting needs it would have been the worse choice. I just dont need its size weight power mpg and all the john deere tracktor charasteristics that come with it. But, it did seem to be a better long range traveler than the wee, smoother suspension and slightly better weather protection, as well as additional power and better brakes for when youre loaded down. So depends on what u need. My main use is navigating through town and downtown for work, and back road adventures on the weekend. The wee just works better for what I do most. The s10 is pure overkill with too much excess baggage in my case. Yours could be different. :yesnod:
 

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Slow speed parking? Not sure I understand that question....a RoadKing can be turned around under power in less than an 18' circle, the Wee & Tenere should make that turn 2' less....16' but I have not measured it yet. Like mentioned above, slow speed maneuvering needs to be practiced a lot until you have confidence in your ability.
 

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I just traded my 2012 DL650 for a 2014 Super Tenere, and so far I couldn't be happier. I've heard all the opinions about being too heavy, too tractor-like, terrible mpg, clutch chudder, vibration, etc. I'm not saying that these aren't valid complaints for those that made them, but I haven't experienced any of them. The S10 was just as nimble as the 650 (based on my riding abilities) in the curves, with the added benefit of extra power for climbing and passing on hills. It does vibrate, as did every motorcycle I've owned; it probably vibrates more than the 650, but not unpleasantly so. It vibrates in a different way. People that describe it as "tractor-like" must be riding some pretty awesome tractors. A Hayabusa it ain't, but it's not a Briggs and Stratton either. I found the power delivery to be pretty damn smooth. I got 45 mpg on my trip back from West Virginia where I picked up the bike; I was riding two up at the time. Not as good as a DL650, but it's a 1200 cc engine, after all, so there will always be that trade off.
 

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Well, from what I have read the 2014 has been much refined and doesnt suffer from the same unpleasant character that the 12-13 model years possessed. However, the fact that u mention that you do notice some of it means its not all gone, which is probably ok. Quiet a few 12-13 model year owners traded up to the 14 for all the improvements. In the end, if it fits your riding style, you definitely made the right decision. :thumbup:
 

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I mentioned the vibration because yes, it vibrates. As has every motorcycle I've ever owned, some more than others. If there is a bike out there that an engineer has somehow found a way to remove all vibration, I've never heard of it. My point was that yes, it vibrates, and no, it's not excessive.
 

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Very nice bike... lots of electronics....lots that can go wrong... if you are going for a pavement pony sure it is great... but the thing is a monster to lug around ... I just took the WEE on the gravel around 50 - 60 MPH for the day and that was freaking crazy as I was playing catchup with the KTM hooligan bikes... until I get more experience in the dirt with sliding and stop panicing I'll keep in the moderate speed group where my WEE is aye ok...

expect you will get 30 - 35 to the gallon depending on load and how you have your computer mapped...

But to me the $14k price plus cost of accessories gives me pause to spen more on a bike than I have on any car I have ever owned... just my .02 ... but hey it is your money do what you want with it
 

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As said, search the forums here - there are other reviews (one from me, even!)

I rode it. I want it. I can't wait. If I had the money, it would be in garage right now. It's just a much better bike for the type of riding I do than the Wee/Glee, and the shaft drive nudges it ahead of the new Vee, IMO.
 

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Low tension piston rings means short engine life and excessive oil consumption.

I had a Thunder ass that started as a qt per 500 (Yamaha said that was within specs) and ended with a qt in 80 at 20K miles
 

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And yet Nick Sanders put over 50,000 miles on one in a year, including the Pan American Double, and when it was torn down in England afterwards, the mechanics said that it looked like it was brand new and had never been ridden.

But I guess Nick got the only good one, that lucky SOB.
 

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I mentioned the vibration because yes, it vibrates. As has every motorcycle I've ever owned, some more than others. If there is a bike out there that an engineer has somehow found a way to remove all vibration, I've never heard of it. My point was that yes, it vibrates, and no, it's not excessive.
Apparently you've never ridden a GL1500 or GL1800 Gold Wing. Glass smooth, all the way. Only "vibration" you'll feel is what's transmitted up through the forks from road irregularities.
 

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E announced proudly the 2014 was upgraded with low tension rings

I mention this that Yami blew me off when I said its brand new carefully broken in but burning a qt od oil every 500 miles

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