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So, from my other thread, I'm getting myself a TomTom Rider. It seems one of the very few places that carry it is Amazon.

I waited too long last weekend to order it from Amazon.ca. At the start of Saturday, they had 3 in stock. When I ordered it on Monday, they were out of stock and the estimated ship date is mid-June.

So tonight, I'm searching around again but I can't find it anywhere. There is a place on eBay that has a bunch, but they have a few really bad reviews. I found it however on Amazon.com... and, low and behold, it's actually $50 cheaper (before taxes and shipping of course). BUT, it said can't be shipped to Canada???

I contacted support and they said "...blah blah international restrictions on some items blah blah...". What really "grinds my gears" is the fact that 9 times out 10, when I order some from Amazon, it gets shipped from a US warehouse anyways. I don't understand how Amazon.ca does not have something in stock but Amazon.com does. I'll bet it's going to get shipped from the same damn place. Guys from support said he would pass on my concern to the "appropriate department" and get back to me. Yea and pigs might fly too.

Anyhow, enough venting for now. Any other Canadian feel like we get treated as a 3rd world country from US companies when it comes on on-line stuff? I argued and argued with a company in Michigan once who would not ship to Ontario but they would to any state in the US including Hawaii and Alaska. When I told them on the phone I was closer to her than 90% of people in the US, she didn't believe me. I asked where they thought Canada was, on the moon? The conversation ended for some reason at that point.
 

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I understand how you feel. I lived in Germany for 4 years and ordered from Amazon.com and had stuff delivered right to my German address every time. E Bay? I ordered from EBay.de, .fr or .uk and got stuff to my door sometimes the next day! From within Germany I could order Friday and Deutsche Post could have it on my doorstep Saturday afternoon. Then I came home and the dream ended. The real insult came when my credit cards started registering as Canadian. Amazon.com shut me out and I got stuck with its retarded cousin, Amazon.ca. The best I could do was to get a Kinek box on the US side of a nearby border crossing. I order my stuff from the US suppliers, it gets sent there and I take the wife for a wild week-end in New York state and pick up all my goodies at once. Of course, add the price of a hotel or two plus all the crap a woman can load into a car from an outlet mall and I probably saved negative money but what the hell, at least I feel like I stuck it to the man...
 

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most of the time they just dont have the information needed to get it across the border and are to lazy to look it up. I have a US address through work and we bring up a shipment every Tuesday and Thursday. It can still be a hassle though but what I wind up doing is finding out all of the information on my own and do the proper paperwork.

Richland Rick was actually AMAZING to deal with, they went above and beyond to meet all of the restrictions I had for getting it across the border!
 

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Yeah that used to burn me too. Then a couple years ago I moved to a place about 10 minutes from the border and now I keep a box on the other side of the line and have stuff shipped there. Makes cross border shopping pretty easy.

I have never had a problem bringing anything back or had to pay duty. Drove my RDL seat across a while ago and was expecting to get tagged for tax....the guard just told me to have a nice day.

It surprises me how much I use that box now. All this saving money buying across the line is costing me a fortune.
 

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Calgary gps store

I get all my electronic toys from GPS central in Calgary, Canadian shipping and funds and no custom troubles.
 

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Arrange for a UPS Store in Buffalo or another mail drop in a U.S. Location to accept it for you, ride over, and get it.
 

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Never had a problem bringing bike stuff over the line myself. No bike stuff is manufactured in Canada, so duty is not an issue. If you're close to the border, just ship it to a PO box on the other side and pick it up.

Some US manufacturors will not want to ship north because they supply a Canadian distributor.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I don't entirely blame US companies for this global conspiracy against Canadians. A lot has to do with our taxes and policies to "protect" Canadian retailers. We've done some of it to our selves. But the rest, I just don't know. If it was something I could buy anywhere here if even for a few buck more, then fine, it all makes sense. But for this where it seems the only place that has it! arrrghhhh. There are companies that will ship to Canada, but the base prices start at an additional $70 up to over $200 more that I've found, then add to that shipping, and the potential duty/brokering that would have to be paid.

When I was in the R/C hobby, I would regularly get stuff from Hong Kong. It cost me a fraction of the price to have something shipped from the other side of the planet, instead of a few hundred miles south. And, depending on the item I would get it in 3 days to boot!

I don't order enough to warrant setting up a US PO box. The company I work for does have a small office the Detroit area, and I know a other coworkers get stuff shipped there, but never go to the office, and obviously can't make it 9-5 M-F (have to actually work ya-know).

I would GLADLY buy the GPS from a Canadian store like GPS Central, but nobody seems to carry it. They list the v2 as discontinued, but nothing since. I've sent them an email to find out more information. And I did stop at both local motorcycle stores here, and neither carry GPSs themselves. All the mounts and accessories, but the the units. I just don't get it. You'd think I was trying to buy a kidney or other body part, not a GPS... And even TomTom does not sell this one direct. I'd get it from there if I could. Maybe, just maybe, it does not even exist. This is just an elaborate hoax by Garmin to get me to spend $700 on theirs!!!

I think this smiley is appropriate here.:headbang:
 

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My buddy went thru the same thing with amazon.
He ended up getting the tom tom app for his iPhone for $50 and a phone mount for another $50.
Only draw back that I could see was that he used ear buds to hear the directions.
 

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There is the option of getting a non motorcycle one. Then it'd need protection, not have Bluetooth, not be as bright, need a separate mount for the bike bought separate and not route me down windy roads... blah

I want THAT one... waaa ;)

I must say, the Amazon support guy is persistent. I've already gotten two emails from him. One has links to other US retailers that will ship to Canada. I told him that sucks, because the base price is way higher. So far he ha not done anything more than I've already done, and I doubt he alone can changed their policy, but it's fun to keep him dangling along.
 

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Maybe I can help.

Dragon1973,

What exactly do you wish to purchase?
I see this deal on Amazon.com:

TomTom RIDER Motorcycle GPS Navigator with Lifetime Maps
+ Battery Tender 081-0069-6 Ring Terminal Harness $329.95
with Black Fused 2-Pin Quick Disconnect Plug $5.31
+ Battery Tender 081-0069-8 Female Cigarette
Adaptor for Quick Disconnect $7.15
Price for all three: $342.41

This is offered with no charge for shipping.

I surely sympathize with you for the plight you are in,
so I volunteer to assist you to get the product you want.

I can buy the gizmo, and then mail it to you in Port Stanley.
For your info, it would cost me about $20 to mail
a two-pound, 8-ounce package to Canada.

Concerning exchange, I reckon that US$360 is worth about CDN$390 today,
based on figures from Canada Trust. (Buy at 380, sell at 400).

Do you want my assistance?

If it matters, please know that my Wee-Strom visited Port Stanley
in 2007 (to sprinkle ashes) and in 2011 (to tour the shore of Lake Erie).

Keith
 

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Hi Keith. Thanks for you generous offer. My goal in this thread was not so much to find someone to do what you are offering, but rather to vent and belly ache and maybe shame Amazon. :). It'll be a bit before I'm ready for a longer trip that warrants a GPS. So far I can only stick within an hour or so of home before I'm done-in. I'm working up my stamina for longer rides.

I'm sure I could get it through you faster than waiting, but with the money I'm spending, I don't want to risk any issues: damage, warranty problems and lastly, any potential hard feelings if something happened along the way. I'd hate to have hard feelings for someone on this forum, that would be uncool.:thumbdown:

You listed those other adapters. Why would I need them? I assumed everything I'd need would be in the box. I figured I'd have to do some jury rigging to get it wired up though. Should I be getting those pieces to make my life easier?

That's great you came through here. I'm just off the Waterfront Trail, so we see lots of bikes every year once the snow clears out. Maybe one or two of those sightings were you!
 

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I understand.

Vent away, then. I hope some worthwhile companies realize that Canada is a fine market with lots of potential customers. As a youth in London Ontario (the northern terminus of the London & Port Stanley Railroad), I occasionally regretted that mail-away coupons in comic books offered goods for sale in USA only, so your plight dates back to the 1940s by my personal recollection.

Concerning stamina, I can tell you it is a worthwhile target. At age 71, I can ride 1000 kilometers in a day, then sleep soundly and do it again the next day. What matters more to me is that I enjoy these rides.

I suppose that the way to build endurance is to try to increase the distance you can enjoy riding in a day. Go visit the Elgin County Railroad Museum in St. Thomas; you will be fascinated if you have any fondness for trains.

Then go to Grand Bend for a swim.

Then take highway 3 and old highway 8 (mostly regional road 81 now) to St. Catharines and Niagara Falls, then go back along the shore of Lake Erie. Stop in Port Burwell and study the lighthouse and visit the museum for about $2.

Perhaps it would be good to ride alone, to avoid feeling torn between fatigue and disappointing a chum who was expecting a longer ride. If you are alone, you can stop or turn around when you want.

When you can look at a map and realize that you can reach Fredericton NB in two easy days, much of North America becomes your playground, and it is great fun.

I expect we will meet this summer. My bike is waiting for me in Thornhill ON, and I will be there in five weeks.

Good luck!
Keith
 

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Having worked far to long in retail I will add a bit more to the discussion since warranty has been brought up :)

almost all products are only covered for warranty in the country that you purchased them in. So having someone like Keith ship it for you or using a service that ships it to a place near the border does have issues with warranty claims in the future.
 

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I am pretty sure they just do this to Port Stanley Residents.... :biggrinjester:
 

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You think that's bad ,try getting ANYTHING fire arms related home,,,it's not even our side ,it is the American side and all their anti terrorist legislation. Altho I was asked coming home after a trip down to pick up Rick's fork brace ,if I had any thing that could be construed as a weapon,,,bite tongue and try to say "no sir".
 

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almost all products are only covered for warranty in the country that you purchased them in. So having someone like Keith ship it for you or using a service that ships it to a place near the border does have issues with warranty claims in the future.
I figured as much. Also, heaven forbid, the US version probably doesn't have a French labels stuck on it, or the French owners manual... Can hear some lawyer in Ottawa just waiting to pounce on Amazon for selling me something that breaks that little law.

Also, got a message back from GPS Central today regarding their not carrying it:
TomTom stop supporting small GPS dealers 8 years ago so I stopped selling there product.
 

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Call me old fashioned ... or pour one for me.

I sometimes use GPS tape when I plan a route.

When I buy the stuff, it bears a label saying Masking Tape,
but when I use it, I write my route on it, then rip it off and
stick it to my tank. Repeat until destination is marked.

At that point it turns into GPS tape, and it works OK.
So far, it has not directed me into a farmer's lane,
and it never pesters me if I disobey it.

Seriously, I used this to ride from near Denver Colorado to Osoyoos BC,
using mostly scenic routes through that spectacularly pretty country.
If I missed a turn or two, I still had fun and got to my destination on time.

A few years ago I found a bargain in a Canadian Tire store (Sheppard near Leslie in North York Ontario, I think). It was a 2008 version of a book of maps of Ontario's secondary roads and backroads. The age of the book never bothered me, and it guided me to lots of scenic twisty routes I would not have found without it. V-Tom has it now, and I hope he enjoys it. A friend gave me a newer version ... and I wonder where the heck I put it.

Keith
 
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