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I like it a lot!

Great brakes, super lightweight feel, linear power was more than just fine.

The engine surprised me the most. I was expecting dull after listening to the reviews but I found it to be marvelous. Linear, no surge after a certain RPM hit. NO vibration and very, very smooth - really nice.

Ergonomics were great.

I would have like better foot pegs but this is what you get on a 13,800 prices bike. Windshield was minimal but effective - the tall one might be an option if I were to buy.

I wanted to get away from a chain for the next ride but to be honest, the chain has never been an issue for me. The "expert" reviewers have me wondering if the tubes might be a PITA but likely not an issue.

Then I rode a 2015 Triumph Explorer 1200. 2nd ride for me - the engine is amazing of course but after coming fomr the AT, it really seemed like a tall street bike; quite stiff. But the engine!

Reflecting, the AT engine, although much less on paper is pushing a MUCH lighter bike that feels even lighter. Would I be happy on the AT - absolutely. I liked it better than the TEX.

Got try one if you're intrigued.

In the end, I jumped back on my trusty, paid-for 2007 VStrom. But this time, the brakes really bothered me since I now see what I'm missing.

AT is top potential pick right now, followed by the TEX. Ducati (see last review) is at the bottom.
 

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I would have like better foot pegs but this is what you get on a 13,800 prices bike. Windshield was minimal but effective - the tall one might be an option if I were to buy.

I wanted to get away from a chain for the next ride but to be honest, the chain has never been an issue for me. The "expert" reviewers have me wondering if the tubes might be a PITA but likely not an issue.
For comparison purposes what is your height & weight. I weight 240 lbs in my birthday suit and I was wondering if the rear suspension was good or if an after market was required. Also wondering if the high wind shield is really required.

What do you mean by tubes?

I liked your comparison with the tiger. I have sat on the AT but no rides are available in my neck of the woods at this time. Good write up.

Brian
 

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I am 5'10 / 182 lbs. Suspension is softly sprung and hard braking (really great front brake!) cause a bit if nose dive that I'm not used to. Many reviewers note this in their online reviews.

Tubes - tires are not tubeless and use tubes. I suspect this was a cost savings issue for Honda.

Shield seemed like it gave smooth air but there was definitely air. It was smooth with no buffeting.

I got back on my VStrom and as I knew it would, very top heavy, horrible brakes (I never seemed to have this bother me before and I have steel lines to the front).

AT is a winner IMO.
 

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the cluth model

Was that the clutchless model ?
I should have noted that the clutch was really, really light pull. More so that the TEX I rode immediately after and of course more so than the VStrom.

I don't commute on my bike any longer so stop and go clutch work not so much and issue but as a city commuter, this would be spectacular. Not a tall seating position. I might also add this low seating position is why I think it has this trials bike look which is the only off-putting thing about it .
 

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Test Rides are almost always good. The problem is that they make me want the bike because its a new feel. I fell into that over and over again since 2008 and bought quite a few mistakes and wished I had my previous bike back. So when I got sick of my FZ 09 in just 2 months, I just wanted my "fun factor" back with a dual sport but with some street power. I had to set up some rules though -> no more bikes larger than 1000cc and no more bikes that cost more than $10K out the door. I added in now, no more in-line motors (including parallel twins); must be 500 lbs or less. The 650 VStrom was a good select for me. However, I test rode a 2013 Yamaha Tenere on sale that nobody was buying, first to be sure. Of course i like it, but it failed to meet my rules. It was just too heavy, too tall, too boring too ride, and too expensive to thrash around in. Who wants to run the risk of rolling a $45,000 Rubicon. The African Twin is like that for me. I'm sure If I test rode one, I'd want it for, "the lust of the eye is never satisfied." LESSON: Be happy with your VStrom 1000 as long as it is not a "lemon." If you want a newer one, the '14,'15 DL1000's go on sale. $6K difference from an AT. All this is just my experience and motor bike opinion.
 

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Have you tried the Vee2? It also has a light feel (compared to previous generation) and excellent front brakes. I've rode the smaller tiger and the Tenere. Liked them both but preferred the Vee2. The AT sounds very interesting to me, but, as others have pointed out, tubed tires worry me. I don't mind them on a smaller, more dirt oriented bike - mainly because I won't be riding at highway speeds on 250 dual sport. And what's the point of getting a big adv big if you're not going to ride it fast on pavement as well? I gotta say, the tubes are a deal breaker for me. Too bad, because I sense that I would love the AT.
 

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I sat on one that was enough to make me want one, bad. I'll wait a few years till some timid would-be adventurer farkles his to death, and decides he can't bear to put it in the dirt.

That's how I get all my adventure bikes.

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I test rode the standard one in June at Americade. I liked it, maybe if I didn't already have a V2 I would have liked it more. I felt it was more dirt oriented in handling and power delivery. I would've liked to ride it in the dirt if I had the chance.
I knew the AT is more dual sport going in but I'm 80% road as is the V2, so I wasn't that impressed. I Iike the AT as I like the Tenere. In a different ways they are all sweet machines. (I still think the Tenere is one of sexiest bikes ever made.)
She's not much of a looker but the V2's engine, brakes, and suspension combine to make a better all around package, for me.
 

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Tubes - tires are not tubeless and use tubes. I suspect this was a cost savings issue for Honda.
I don't think it's about cost-savings. They're 18/21 wheel sets, having tubed tires gives you vastly more offroad tire selection and more affordable ones at that.

I totally get that people bristle at tubes, on the street they offer no advantage (nor does that tall front tire) but understanding the reason these tires/wheels are on the A/T is half of deciding if it's a bike that meets your needs. That's a feature of a dirt machine, and if you're not going to ride dirt this bike makes zero sense IMHO.

It's one of the things I absolutely LOVE about the new A/T. I've been watching people try to convert to 18/21 tubed setup on other bikes for years over on ADV to get this feature, it was not done out of cheapskating.
 

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100% agree with swingset. Tubeless spoked wheels are fundamental to this bike's appeal.
 

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The Guy I do most of my riding with got one about a month ago

It is a nice machine, motor is really smooth, and has great power. I really like the traction control trigger. pull it and release and it cycles thru the different levels, pull and hold for a second and it disables it on the fly

The only thing I didn't like was the bars vibrate a lot. To the point of numb fingers

And the seat to pegs distance seems cramped. but he has the seat at its lowest position

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Question, I quite liked the one I rode, but it had this weird tick in the front. Like there was someone whacking the bar end with a hammer every few seconds. Anyone else notice that ?.

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I HATE tubes, my most miserable hours on motorcycles have involved tubes :).
It's the first litre bike I've ridden that was civilized in heavy traffic.
Didn't seem to have any more get up and go than a DL650. I'm sure it has a higher top speed and probably better roll on at speed, but up to 100kph it didn't feel any quicker.
Nice and nimble, probably about as agile as the DL 650 - which is a good trick with a 21" front.
 

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Didn't seem to have any more get up and go than a DL650. I'm sure it has a higher top speed and probably better roll on at speed, but up to 100kph it didn't feel any quicker.
Nice and nimble, probably about as agile as the DL 650 - which is a good trick with a 21" front.
That really surprises me and almost seems impossible. I mean, sure, the DL650 is no slouch when it comes to practical 650-class FI felt power (about 65 hp and 475 lbs wet = .14 hp/lb) but the AT should have a lot more at 94 hp and 503 lbs wet = .19 hp/lb.
 

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I HATE tubes, my most miserable hours on motorcycles have involved tubes :).
It's the first litre bike I've ridden that was civilized in heavy traffic.
Didn't seem to have any more get up and go than a DL650. I'm sure it has a higher top speed and probably better roll on at speed, but up to 100kph it didn't feel any quicker.
Nice and nimble, probably about as agile as the DL 650 - which is a good trick with a 21" front.

Honda should have used tubeless spoke rims, would have broaden the bikes appeal.

There are products to eliminate the tube like the Tubliss system (ADV review).

I'm thinking that Honda will release a "street" version with cast wheels in the future. Cause you know most "adventure" bikes see nothing more than the occasional dirt road.
 

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I'm thinking that Honda will release a "street" version with cast wheels in the future. Cause you know most "adventure" bikes see nothing more than the occasional dirt road.
In part because they're so damned heavy. Recall that initial excitement over the AT was in part based on estimated 450-475 wet weights. 503 isn't horrible but it's a far cry from 450 once you get into rougher stuff.
 

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In part because they're so damned heavy. Recall that initial excitement over the AT was in part based on estimated 450-475 wet weights. 503 isn't horrible but it's a far cry from 450 once you get into rougher stuff.

But it feels like a much lighter bike once it's moving. :grin2:

What bike doesn't, until you have to pick it up.

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