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Strom Speed Dilation Effect

3.6K views 28 replies 17 participants last post by  Big B  
#1 ·
I've had my '15 V-Strom DL650 now for about a month and I'm curious what longer-term riders have to say about this curious effect I've noticed on my rides. If I didn't have the wind or my eyes on the speedo to tell me I was constantly speeding, I think I'd have racked up half a dozen tickets by now. What do you think it is about the Wee/Glee that makes even higher-than-legal speeds seem like things are moving in slow motion?

I've been riding for a long time now, and this is the first and only bike that I have a really hard time judging my speed on without peeking at the speedo - and when I do, I'm always surprised at how easily it overruns what I'd have normally considered fast for a given situation.

While I'm sure that this effect will normalize over time and experience on the ride, I'm still trying to put together my thoughts on just what the reason is that this bike is so different.

Thoughts?

EDIT - The Harley in my near past, in stark contrast, always felt like I was moving way too fast...
 
#2 ·
The 7-8% high reading speedo may have something to do with it. It's not shaking or making noises like a Harley is another thing.
 
#15 ·
The speedo being high - is this a 'feature' of most all bikes? I ask because I was riding with a buddy this weekend who was on a Ural, and his speedo readings were about the same as mine. I was asking him to double check the accuracy of my own speedo.
 
#3 ·
Smooth and quiet have a part to play, but I suspect the biggest reason is that you are sitting much further from the ground than on the Harley or most other types of bikes.

..Tom
 
#4 ·
When i had my cruiser i used to enjoy taking the windshield off in Summer, without a shield it feels like you are going way faster. I suspect the shield on your bike is better than your HD's? You end up sitting in a pocket of nearly motionless air, so you don't get the motion feedback the same way.
 
#5 ·
It's certainly has something to do with all of the above:

  • Smooth has a big part to play, sure. Smooth feels slow but in reality is a lot faster! The shaking of the Harley, for sure, also has something to do with it. Sitting at a light I used to have fun clenching my jaw just enough for my teeth to rattle against one another.
  • Wind for sure. The Sportster had no shield, so the blast of air was constantly pushing me back in the saddle - not so on the Strom, but still likely in need of even further help here - have a Parabellum on the way for the Strom.
  • Height - yep. I don't feel like I'm riding a skate board anymore, though I am certain that when I'm leaning, I feel a lot more grip than I did on the Sportster.

So am I gathering that none of you feel there is something magical going on... disappointed ;)
 
#7 ·
Actually, magic IS happening! It is what makes us not want to stop riding and sleep restlessly the night before a fun ride.
 
#13 ·
So cool that I'm not the only one who has magic rides too. Relaxed riding is fun riding and the Wee/Glee makes that a reality for me. After I get an appropriately tall windshield this week, I'm sure the magical effect will grow immensely.

Actually rode 2-Up this weekend for the first time since I got the bike, and my passenger's first comment was, "How nice and quiet - could really enjoy the scenery around me without my ears being beaten on by the exhaust!"
 
#9 · (Edited)
My C-10 Concours is no slouch at clipping along rapidly, but I always find myself going much faster on the same roads when riding the Wee. I have a hard time keeping it under 60 MPH even on 40 MPH county roads. I think it is a function of being a little tall, very quiet and light-feeling when underway, kind of like a big Schwinn you don't have to pedal.
 
#16 ·
...kind of like a big Schwinn you don't have to pedal.
For sure if I had to pedal my way up to 60+ speeds, it'd put a damper on the magic :) The huffing and puffing alone would be monumental.
 
#10 ·
I have the same feeling on the bike. It has such a comfortable seating position and control position, it just feels to me like a big dirt bike. And then there's the 100 HP! Plus some pretty cushy suspension and good handling. It's pretty effortless, even at speed. Just kick back and enjoy it.
 
#11 ·
I try really hard to keep it very cool but there are some roads that are just the right flow that it is REALLY hard not to creep the speed up. The smile gets big enough that it reminds me I should probably slow it back down.
I hate it when they put a 40mph limit on a smooth two lane road that keeps dishing out beautiful corners over and over. Sometimes I wish some of those roads had a few hairpins to slow it down and remind me that 70-75 is 30+ mph over the speed limit.
Better yet they should have a different motorcycle speed limit (like that could happen).
I guy can dream.
I do jot really limit my speed in the corners, BUT if the bike is not needing to lean over after 3 to 5 seconds I consider it a straight and get it back down to about 5 over the limit.
 
#14 ·
I retired very well and can afford to pay attention to the speed limit now. I have no need to get anywhere too quickly either.
This allows me to avoid those unfortunate conversations with authorative figures who have a tablet filling requirement.
The Wee, even an old one, still likes a good romp occasionally. One must just be careful in selection the location to do so.
 
#17 ·
High speedo readings are common due to the way the laws are written. Up to 10% high is allowed in most countries but reading low, even with modifications that affect the reading, gets a manufacturer in legal hot water. Different tires and sprockets change readings. Put a 16T front sprocket on your bike instead of the stock 15T and the speedo is suddenly accurate. I don't have any more details on other models.
 
#23 ·
I noticed this too on the interstate.
All my bikes had different sweet spots but those spots were of my making, not the bikes. There's an RPM, a speed, a wind blast and the exhaust note that come together that we like the best.
The Wee can hide some of that. Most of it for me.
Yeah....you gotta watch that speedo or stay in 5 on the slab. The bike seems not to provide the feedback associated with going a little too fast.
 
#24 ·
I have put about 750k on my new Glee and have also noticed how hard it is to keep speed down and I'm sure that the reason is as other posts say: because the Glee is so smooth and quiet. This is also the first bike I've owned with a digital speedometer and I have to say that I prefer an analogue. Just glancing down it seems it takes longer for my brain to compute a number (which is often jumping around) to a needle on a dial. Hopefully, it's just a matter of time and getting used to it. In town I find it easiest to stick in 3rd gear and the bike as the engine seems happy at about 50kph. If I change up I just end up going faster - it's so smooth! I also find myself using the gear indicator all the time. Kind of useful but I managed on my last bike without one and wonder if it is in fact a distraction.
 
#25 ·
I've had a similar "feel" with my wee. It's speed can creep up on me. After two years ownership, I still find it easier to maintain a cruising speed on a more powerful bike. For me, I think it's the power curve (or lack of). :green_lol:
 
#26 ·
I did a pretty long ride yesterday and the Wee, being an effortless bike for this kind of ride brought this thread to mind. Most recently coming off ninja 300 I missed not giving a lot of attention to riding the bike, specifically keeping the revs high and having to downshift at the long hills and sharp turns. The 300's and 250's can be ridden aggressively without going too fast ( for my comfort). The Wee, if I rode it like i ride the 300 would go too fast. Maybe some riders ( me) just like to operate the machine and dont really care about how fast, how comfy.No question that $ for $ the Wee is most useable bike on market for all styles of riding but so far, it's effortless. So far, I haven't had to "force it" to do anything. But ya can't have everything, right ?
 
#28 ·
LOL - yeah, perhaps. It does seem like a different planet around here sometimes.

Jupiter