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Howdy - My 2005 Vstrom 650 has been acting a bit strange as of lately. When shifting, the shift feels not as quick and direct, rather it feels like when I release the clutch the engine has to rev slightly back up. Basically the shifts are not snappy. Any ideas? Hopefully my explanation makes some sort of sense.

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I'd start with the easy things. Check and lube the shift linkage, check the clutch cable slack and that nothing is interfering with it releasing (The cable should not be lubed but the cable ends need lube where they attach to the levers.). I once had issues with a free heated glove cable end getting caught in such a way that it stopped the clutch lever from fully returning to the handlebar.

If those all check out open the cover over the front sprocket and make sure the clutch release device is working freely. Then check and adjust the actuator to make sure there is the proper amount of free play.


If that is doesn't fix it then there is something more at play although it is very rare that clutch Plates and springs need replacement.

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I am not sure if you are saying that the shifting action is different or that you are saying that the clutch action is different. It makes a lot of difference when I clean and lube my shift linkage ('05 wee).

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Well you got a pretty complete answer from Tom.

Now tell us a bit more about the bike and the problem and what you have tried to rectify it. Mileage on the WEE?

As Tom said make sure to lube the barrel connector and the pivot in the clutch handle. This is often overlooked. Then report back.
 

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I've had a slightly crunchy shifting in the first 3 gears due to the clutch being interfered with by the Oxford grips rotating on the bar. Gluing it in place fixed that.
Some folks clain this or that oil has made a difference in the operation of the shifting too. Look up the oil sticky.
My 04 Wee has 100K miles and still operates well enough to not need work.
 

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Thanks for all the responses.

The bike is an ‘05 with 25k miles. I just changed the oil and used Mobil 1 racing (last pil change was done by a dealer so not sure what they had in it). It’s been going on for a while but mostly when shifting to 3rd and up. Not it seems to be doing it in 2nd as well.
This is my first V Strom so it could just be the way the bike is as I have no comparisons.
I have been trying to find someone who has one close to me to compare, but no luck so far (Tampa area).
 

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I am not sure if you are saying that the shifting action is different or that you are saying that the clutch action is different. It makes a lot of difference when I clean and lube my shift linkage ('05 wee).

RLB
Basically when I shift the bike does not snap, as if the clutch was dragging.
 

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Was the Mobil 1 Racing that you used made specifically for motorcycles? If not you may be getting clutch slippage due to friction modifiers used in car oil.
 

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Was the Mobil 1 Racing that you used made specifically for motorcycles? If not you may be getting clutch slippage due to friction modifiers used in car oil.
To check for clutch slippage get a bit of speed up, pull in the clutch, rev the engine high a let go of the clutch. If the motor keeps revving and doesn't immediately slow down then the clutch slipping. That could be from oil but also could be from bad adjust or something preventing the clutch lever or cable from fully releasing.

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Was the Mobil 1 Racing that you used made specifically for motorcycles? If not you may be getting clutch slippage due to friction modifiers used in car oil.
Mobil1 Racing 4T Motorcycle 10W-40 Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 1 Quart


I assume it should work.
 

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Mobil1 Racing 4T Motorcycle 10W-40 Full Synthetic Motor Oil, 1 Quart


I assume it should work.

It probably isn't the cause of your issues.

My understanding is that in general oil intended for race bikes probably shouldn't be used on road bikes. They don't contain the detergents etc that help stop sludge buildup and other issues that come from sitting around.

Of course if you change your oil after every ride it wouldn't matter.

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Thing is I can't tell if it's the clutch or a loss of power from the engine.


It probably isn't the cause of your issues.

My understanding is that in general oil intended for race bikes probably shouldn't be used on road bikes. They don't contain the detergents etc that help stop sludge buildup and other issues that come from sitting around.

Of course if you change your oil after every ride it wouldn't matter.

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So upon more testing, it seems when it reaches 7000 rpm there is a slight power loss or leveling off. RPM still climb but it stops accelerating as hard.

Is that normal?
 

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So upon more testing, it seems when it reaches 7000 rpm there is a slight power loss or leveling off. RPM still climb but it stops accelerating as hard.

Is that normal?
That sounds like a symptom of a plugged fuel filter, especially if it is more notable in higher gears.

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So upon more testing, it seems when it reaches 7000 rpm there is a slight power loss or leveling off. RPM still climb but it stops accelerating as hard.

Is that normal?
That sounds like a symptom of a plugged fuel filter, especially if it is more notable in higher gears.

..Tom
Unfortunately it’s more noticeable in lower gears especially first gear and a bit in second gear. Once you get to 7000 it feels like even though it’s still revving, the power levels off.
 

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What you say is quite mysterious. Give us more info.

What bike, mileage, located where, what maintenance has been done and when, fuel flow test results .. etc.
 

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Unfortunately it’s more noticeable in lower gears especially first gear and a bit in second gear. Once you get to 7000 it feels like even though it’s still revving, the power levels off.
Thanks have you checked for any blockage in the air intake?

Also how is battery voltage? Bad battery can cause weird effects.

..Tom
 

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... could be from bad adjust or something preventing the clutch lever or cable from fully releasing.
Is the clutch lever factory equipment or aftermarket?

I mention it because a buddy had a Tiger where the PO put on an aftermarket clutch lever that didn't fit properly and was preventing it from fully releasing. Since it was new to him, he didn't realize the issue, yet it was slightly slipping for some time and totally scorched the discs and plates eventually.

As others have said, check the components and adjustments top to bottom to rule out or "fix" any actual slipping.
 
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